The universal custom was polytheism until monotheism came along. All cultures were based around polytheistic religion. Wasn't whether polytheism had been the universal custom up to that point moot when considering whether to accept monotheism as a viable religion?
According to the Bible, our first parents knew the One God, and polytheism was a degeneration after the Fall when the true God was forgotten and the demons impersonated "gods" to spiritually dead humanity. Polygamy also was a degeneration from the original God-ordained monogamy, again as a result of the Fall. Nevertheless the formal recognition of marriage was a part of every culture and it never ordained gay marriage.
In the first case, as with gays, they are not qualified for marriage
Not in all cultures. In any case you have avoided the question.
Name the cultures that have sanctified gay marriage.
There is no purpose for it.
No, there WAS no purpose for it. Since legitimation of any sexual relationship socially, as well as the conference of rights governmentally has become the nature of marriage, the nature of marriage itself has changed such that gays might want to partake in it.
They want it to give an aura of legitimacy to their unnatural sexuality, that's all. While I can sympathize, I can't see allowing this demeaning of marriage to be done to society as a whole. Also, the first gay rights groups were radical leftists and they stated their goal of DESTROYING marriage. Actually it is the Left that has destroyed marriage pretty successfully by many means over the last few decades, by redefining rights and freedoms to cover sins and crimes and aberrations.
If you want to blame anyone for changing what marriage is about, blame Xians for hammering home the idea that the only sex which is socially and legally legitimate is the sex within marriage.
And what does this CHANGE? Marriage is not the invention of Christians or of any religion. It goes back to the beginning of history and exists in every culture as a rite for legitimizing heterosexuality, period. It has included polygamy, wrongly, but it has never legitimized anything but heterosexual sex.
I have no answer for this. It's something I think should be obvious upon serious reflection.
Upon much more serious reflection you will realize that without an answer to that question, your position is without evidence and so untenable. In other words my position is more accurate.
I answered it in a subsequent post.
No, what we have been doing with our general widespread trashing of marriage over the last half century is absolutely unique in history I believe.
It is unique only in the fact that it will be about gay marriage in specific, rather than changing other parts of marriage (like losing polygamy), though I guess it should be pointed out that the US has now failed to keep up with or make history. The historic act of recognizing gay marriage was already done by Netherlands, Canada, and Spain.
The "loss" of polygamy started a couple of millennia ago, it's not exactly new, and it can be credited as one of the improvements in the West that led to our great success as a culture. Yes, it is sad how fast the once great West has been deteriorating. In one part of Canada they even put pastors into prison for preaching that homosexuality is a sin. Also happened in Australia.
As I already pointed out, that idea was an extremely limited situation, and again, the principle that underlies marriage throughout all time and all cultures is heterosexuality.
Your reasoning is circular. Either changes have an effect or they do not. They can be demonstrated or they cannot. Your claim is that changing marriage customs is detrimental. You have proof or you do not. Even if you specify the criteria to only gay marriages then you have proof or you do not.
No you are making the generalization about all marriage customs. Some customs were bad and needed to be changed for the good of society. But heterosexuality is THE standard and changing THAT is as good as asking for the destruction of society altogether. Practically speaking, gay marriage does NOTHING for society, it is merely a self-indulgence that trivializes marriage and contributes to the fragmentation and confusion we're already seeing so much of. So far I've been avoiding bringing God into this but at some point it has to be said that this is just inviting God's judgment, along with all the other ridiculous social "freedoms" we've been entertaining. In fact this fragmentation IS the beginning of God's judgment. When chaos reigns and diseases can't be stopped and people continue to do whatever they please, we're on the way to total destruction.
If there is no historical evidence of ill befalling any nation because it accepted gay marriage then you are lacking any basis for claiming that it will cause something bad to happen.
"Science" will be the death of us all. Common sense is thrown out and now we must do everything by "evidence." Do you have to conduct a double-blind experiment to find out if it's wise to get out of bed in the morning or not?
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