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Lorenzo7 Inactive Member |
I was curious as to why we look the way we do. Creationists believe that we are created in the image of God meaning we share common characteristics.
Tell me what was the point of evolving an upright stance from 4- to 2-legged creatures if most of the animals prefer activating as 4-legged. And 4-legged creatures obviously can survive and move better. Please explain why we don't have 3 ears instead of two (i'm being exaggerating) because the point remains that we as creationists know we are created in the image of God. But if we evolved, whose to say why we don't have 3 ears out of complete chance, than just two? If its survival of the fittest, shouldn't those who hear better survive better? How were both male and females evolved at the same time, close enough to be able to reproduce. And who came first, a male or female? Why aren't there more sex genders if different sexes were evolved. As a creationist, I can say that God created just males and females specifically. Please try not to respond with questions that reciporicate. Thanks. [This message has been edited by Lorenzo7, 01-16-2002]
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Just wondering how do you know this? You seen God lately?
quote: Well first up why do four legs give you a survival advantage, so you can run faster? But if like humans your advantage lies in being able to use tools then running on all fours is a bad idea as feet/hands adapted to run on are less able to manipulate tools... Tell all the four legged animals we have hunted out of existence how advantageous 4 legs are over tool use... Oh you cant can you they are extinct...
quote: Heres a hypothesis for you (I`m not sure if its right) ears are located over weak points in the skull having more ears would be a bad plan as it would lead to greater chance of buggering up the brain in an accident.... [This message has been edited by joz, 01-16-2002]
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Oreopithecus Inactive Member |
Tell me what was the point of evolving an upright stance from 4- to 2-legged creatures if most of the animals prefer activating as 4-legged. And 4-legged creatures obviously can survive and move better.
Tyrannosaurus rex walked on two legs, as did most meat-eating dinosaurs. because the point remains that we as creationists know we are created in the image of God So God has a penis then I take it. And is he black/white/asian, is he fat/skinny/anorexic, does he have bad breathe??
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
quote: You have two ears so that (1) you can get a decent coverage of the area around you (2) you can tell the direction of the sound. A third ear would not contribute appreciably to either reason and would increase the demands placed upon the brain. By the way, your argument is flawed because you are claiming that a third ear would make people hear better, and since you believe that we were made in a "great design" by God, the possibility that our bodies could be improved through modification undermines your premise.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Why not a vagina? Or is God hermaphroditic? Or a neuter? God doesn`t have to have sex to reproduce....
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Lorenzo7 Inactive Member |
What I'm trying to say is that we are created in the image of God meaning that we share common characteristics. You and I don't look exactly the same, but we share common characterics. Its not facial hair, or dimples or sex organs that i'm talking about. Its the fact that we are both beings that act similiarly. We both love and feel pain. That has nothing to do with God's race or size or anything like that. I hope I made my opinion clearer.
I know this is kind of off the point, but the comment about have I seen God. You've probably heard the wind analogy a million times. Its simplistic but follows the same lines. You can see the wind or gravity, but you can see the results of it.
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Darwinboy Inactive Member |
Your point is well taken and makes sense.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Understood but in order to state with absolute certainty that we share common characteristics you must observe God and his characteristics otherwise it is a hypothesis based on nothing.... Yet another a priori speculation...
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: We share common characteristics with all life. ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
How do you know you were made in the image of God?
Do you have evidnece of what God looks like, so anyone can compare what you look like with what God looks like and pretty much everybody agrees that the two of you bear a striking resemblance to each other? Or, were you taught that God made us in His/Her/It's image, and you accept that at face value? Look, you are free to believe that, of course, more power to you. However, if you are using a religious teaching to try to make a point about a scientific theory of Biology, I really don't think that it's going to do much for your argument.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
[QUOTE]You can see the wind or gravity, but you can see the results of it.[/B][/QUOTE]
Great, you accept inference as evidence! We actually DO observe evolution directly both in the lab and in the field, and we see lots of "results of it." Have a look at these two web sites for a good introduction to Evolutionary Biology:
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/evolution/evolution-for-beginners.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-intro-to-biology.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-definition.html Please bring any specific questions, arguments, criticisms, or comments back here and we will discuss them. Happy Learning!
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
In the image of God?: Might that not be a physical image at all?
Maybe it's an intellectual image. Maybe we were created to have a thought process like God. Moose ------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by minnemooseus:
Maybe it's an intellectual image. Maybe we were created to have a thought process like God. [/B][/QUOTE] I think that's the only feasible interpretation. How can an omnipresent entity have a form? Except when it is deliberately acting in human form for some particular purpose. Yet unlike the biomechanics, which can vary across species adapted to various environments and are always highly specialized, it would seem that the capacity to reason, and to feel, and to have moral values, would be universally similar, whether one is a biological form or something else. Of course such a liberal interpretation of Scripture is likely to irk fundamentalists, and I applaud Lorenzo for bringing it up. [This message has been edited by gene90, 01-17-2002]
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Seems to me he was referring to physical appearance...
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Lorenzo is referring to physical appearance, but was the Bible?
Moose
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