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riVeRraT
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Message 126 of 140 (247826)
09-30-2005 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by NosyNed
09-30-2005 8:07 PM


Re: knowing what a theory is...
You mostly describe a process in that statement you don't do much in the way of defining a theory. The phrase "logical explanation" begins to suggest some idea of it. Perhaps you could have another go at the definition?
A plausible principal, or set of principals used to explain a phenomena.
But somehow, it always seems to go beyond that.
A true gap or flaw would be something that the theory should explain but can not; at least to me.
You are more ready to accept theories than me. Which is a good thing, because that is what drives you, and that leads you to more answers, and more questions.
I do the same thing when I troubleshoot in the HVAC business. I see a problem, and then come up with a theory based on my knowledge, of what is causing it, then I test it to see if I am right. My theory is derived from asking questions to the owner of the equipment, and taking readings of said equipment. I am known to be on of the best troublshooters in the local area, and fellow tradesmen call me for answers often. I use my God given logic, coupled with education to figure these problems out. It's not much difference than science.
I also do the same thing with my hobbies. I am into the more difficult hobbies.

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riVeRraT
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Message 129 of 140 (247832)
09-30-2005 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by nwr
09-30-2005 8:49 PM


Re: knowing what a theory is...
I won't go into the details of the whole thing, but it's both sometimes.

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riVeRraT
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Message 133 of 140 (247903)
10-01-2005 10:32 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by Nuggin
09-30-2005 11:25 PM


Re: knowing what a theory is...
then coming up with a theory based on what you want to believe,
That would be incorrect. That is not what I am doing. There are no belief's involved, when it comes to troubleshooting.
You've already concluded that there is a God, that he created you (humans) for some special purpose. Anything which contradicts that is discarded complete.
Also incorrect. Since I spent 38 years of my 40 years of existance not believing in God, and then not being sure, I somehow found God. How did I find him? Exactly the way Jesus taught us to find him.
Since "finding God" for myself, I have been testing myself, and my beliefs. That was part of the reason I joined this forum, over 2000 posts ago. The other part was to share with people what I had found.
I have learned many lessons on both aspects of that, and my faith is even stronger than ever. I thank all of you in this forum for taking time to talk to me, and explain things to me that I may have the wrong idea about. Also to take the time and read about what I believe in.
It would seem no matter how much God continues to prove himself to me, there is always doubt. I guess that's what faith is all about. All I wish to do is keep my faith real, and disregard tradition, and merely Love God, and love others.
There is an authority bestowed upon you when you become a born again Christian. It is not by your own labeling that you become one, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. When this happens, you become a whipping post for others who don't believe. People constantly look towards men in hopes of finding God. We all seek the truth. One day you may find yourself on this side of the fence, and then you will understand me better.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 135 of 140 (247922)
10-01-2005 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Nuggin
10-01-2005 11:48 AM


Re: knowing what a theory is...
When did I say I didn't believe in God. Especially since I feel he has spoken directly to me, and continues to speak to me daily.
Would you need scientific deduction if God spoke to you directly?

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 139 of 140 (247969)
10-01-2005 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Nuggin
10-01-2005 1:01 PM


Re: knowing what a theory is...
Like I have been saying all along, the day I heard God is either the day I went crazy or the day I heard from God.
The problem with your THEORY is that I do not just hear voices in my head. Actually I do not hear any voices in my head. I did however once hear my name called out from directly behind me. That was before I "heard" from God. I have always been wondering if it was God speaking to me in an audible voice.
There are several ways God speaks to us. You will no doubt call it imagining things. Thats fine.

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