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Message 69 of 140 (246610)
09-26-2005 5:17 PM

Reply to: Message 68 by riVeRraT
09-26-2005 4:29 PM

Re: Ice Age

the rat writes:

Scientist are looking for a natural explanation, when it was clearly a supernatural event, brought on by the Al-mighty himself. Why wouldn't a guy who could breath the universe into existance, have problem with flooding the earth in such a way, that Noah would survive, and the earth would not yeild the results we expect to see with today's technology?

So, if 'goddunit' is a plausible explanation, in your opinion, then would you say that we should stop all scientific endeavors right now and proceed to use 'goddunit' for everything? Why spend all those years studying scientific theories if I can get a phd in the 'goddunit' field?

You see what I'm trying to get at? The moment we introduce the 'goddunit' explanation to anything, we go back to the dark ages. Heck, since you're a mechanic, you should know what I'm talking about. Rather than fixing up those machines, just say 'god doesn't want us to use it anymore... that's why it's broken.' and you get paid.

Just curious. Do you use a car or ever flown in an airplane before? You do realize that the people that invented those things didn't just pray to god pops out those machineries? Years of SCIENTIFIC research made those things possible. Even your computer screen was a result of SCIENTIFIC endeavors. One just doesn't say 'wow, I don't know how the computer works, therefore god must have made this computer to work. And since Bill Gates created this system, Gates must be god!'

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Message 81 of 140 (246851)
09-27-2005 11:42 PM

Reply to: Message 77 by Nuggin
09-27-2005 2:38 PM

Re: Ice Age

Nuggin writes:

...but when they pretend to be scientists, they run into trouble

Not necessarily. Remember that they almost always chose their audience to be church going aunts and uncles and 5 year olds. I have a 5 year old niece and, to tell you the truth, I have no doubt that she would believe me if I tell her the moon is made of cheese. How do you think Kansas is getting ready to teach religion in the science classroom?

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Message 105 of 140 (247388)
09-29-2005 6:41 PM

Reply to: Message 95 by riVeRraT
09-29-2005 7:20 AM

Re: Ice Age

rat writes:

I mention it because according to people like you, fish fossils on a mountain top are not evidence of a worldwide flood. For whatever reason.

Rat, the reason it is not evidence for the flood is because we not only find fish fossils on the mountains but we also find them IN the mountains.

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Message 117 of 140 (247651)
09-30-2005 11:24 AM

Reply to: Message 108 by riVeRraT
09-30-2005 6:46 AM

Re: Ice Age

Dude, carbon dating only dates things that are young, relatively. There are other methods of dating really old fossils. There are many ways to date the fossils. Here are a few methods: radiometric, fission track, superposition, paleomagnetic, etc. That's just a small list. The kicker is they all seem to agree with each other within an acceptable margin of error.

So, how do creationists date things?