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RAZD
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Message 6 of 105 (257009)
11-05-2005 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Minnemooseus
11-05-2005 12:37 AM


Links to Science articles
They have some interesting links on their science news page
http://www.answersincreation.org/science_news.htm
- Global warming and fossil preservations
- Dark Matter (found? or still just theoretical)
- Oxygen levels and evolution
They seem rather proud to toot their horns about their acceptance of science in relationship to YEC views ....
I followed the last to it's link to
http://www.sciencedaily.com/...ases/2005/10/051003080102.htm
and then the link from there to
http://ur.rutgers.edu/medrel/science/falkowski.shtml
From a steady 10 percent - the level at which dinosaurs flourished - the oxygen percentage rose to 17 percent 50 million years ago and then to 23 percent by 40 million years ago. The researchers found that the rise in oxygen content in the fossil record corresponded to the rapid rise of large, placental mammals. "The more oxygen, the bigger the mammals," Falkowksi says. "We argue that the rise in oxygen content allowed mammals to become very, very large - mammals like 12-foot-tall sloths and huge saber-toothed cats. They paved the way for all subsequent large mammals, including ourselves."
The results described in Falkowski's article, "The Rise of Oxygen Over the Past 205 Million Years and the Evolution of Large Placental Mammals," stem from years of analysis of organic and inorganic core samples.
In the last 10 million years, the percentage of oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere has decreased to 21 percent. Falkowski says many scientists believed that great fires burned over the earth about 10 million years ago, reducing the number of trees, and, therefore, the amount of photosynthesis and oxygen.
The cited article is:
Falkowski et al., The Rise of Oxygen Over the Past 205 Million Years and the Evolution of Large Placental Mammals, Science 2005 309: 2202-2204
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Can be a good site for showing that not all crhristians need to find problems with evolution, fossils, age of the earth, etc, while still maintaining faith.
{abe}
The major difference I see between them and the YEC\ID sites is that they link to existing science articles outside their site, rather than articles that put spin on interpretations of articles.
I take this as a "here is the information, make up your own mind" approach.
{/abe}
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Message 27 of 105 (261615)
11-20-2005 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Cold Foreign Object
11-20-2005 6:16 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
Fact: The Bible says the Earth is old.
There is a vast gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
Ray, I know you've posted before that you accept the earth is old, is this "gap theory" or your own thinking? How old do you think the earth is?
Genesis 1 has God telling Adam to "REplenish" the Earth.
Is there a time-table for this? At what point in time does Adam step on the stage?
Just curious

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Message 34 of 105 (262112)
11-21-2005 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by Cold Foreign Object
11-21-2005 4:01 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism???
The gap theory is one of two theories ALL scholars subscribe to. My sources are pro-gap theorists.
Time is conspicuously absent from Genesis.
I can see no problem with that approach on the surface. There might be some places where interpretations come to be at odds but I don't see a necessity for this to happen.
Genealogically, Adam was created 5100 BC (source: Codex Alexandrinus)
This then brings to question what are all the plentiful fossils and other evidence of complete Homo sapiens well before that period - are these the "other men" that some see references to? The dates of these fossils is well corroborated vis a vis the dating correlations shown in {Age Correlations and an Old Earth}
http://EvC Forum: Age Correlations and an Old Earth: Part II.
Doesn't this sort of contradict the "Time is conspicuously absent from Genesis" bit above?
Just curious.

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Message 73 of 105 (547783)
02-22-2010 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Dr Adequate
02-22-2010 6:41 PM


Re: recessive genes, Fall, dinosaurs
Thanks Dr Adequate,
But I don't think is was me. Like the idea, and have said similar things, but don't recall that one.
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