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Dr Adequate
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Message 56 of 105 (547586)
02-20-2010 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by achristian1985
02-17-2010 11:44 PM


Re: Theistic Evolutionism!!! Free Will, human spirit
I don't see why cloning would be necessary. There's nothing in your hypothesis that prevents one male and one female, both homozygous for the relevant allele, from occurring in the same generation.

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Message 59 of 105 (547619)
02-20-2010 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by achristian1985
02-20-2010 6:00 PM


That's true, although cloning (used for lack of a better term: duplication except for Y chromosome is more precise) would produce the closest match.
Which would be a bad thing if Adam carried any harmful recessives. Think of the children ...

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Message 68 of 105 (547672)
02-21-2010 12:38 PM
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02-20-2010 6:54 PM


Divine motivation precludes random chance. (Einstein: "God doesn't shoot craps with the universe?"
Recessive matching not so detrimental as thought in short-term relationships. J ust don't encourage your kids to keep marrying their cousins.
Your point is obscure.
Mine, I think, is much clearer: from a genetic standpoint, it would not be a particularly good idea for Eve's genes to perfectly match Adam's.

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Message 69 of 105 (547673)
02-21-2010 12:40 PM
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02-20-2010 9:42 PM


Re: info links, please
My excerpt concerning the chronological ordering in the Genesis 6-day account was written 30 years ago, footnoted from a reputable Biology textbook.
No.
If the book was reputable, that is not what it said; if that is what it said, it was not reputable.

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Message 71 of 105 (547775)
02-22-2010 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by achristian1985
02-22-2010 5:30 PM


Re: recessive genes, Fall, dinosaurs
Not a cop-out: but this is in toto giving me a greater realization that its not so cut-and-dried, that there's a larger area for faith than I considered.
You bet your ass.
One of the posters here, I think it might have been RAZD, said something that stuck with me.
He said: you can believe in God all you want, and you can believe that he created the universe. Only then you've got to believe that he created the real universe, the one that we actually live in.
I agree. It's a cop-out beliving that God made the universe that exists in the daydreams of Young Earth Creationists, because that universe doesn't exist.

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Message 74 of 105 (547791)
02-22-2010 8:57 PM
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02-22-2010 8:00 PM


RAZD
But I don't think is was me. Like the idea, and have said similar things, but don't recall that one.
Well if you've said similar things, then it probably was you. I didn't say that I was accurately quoting verbatim every word that dropped like quicksilver off my guru's golden tongue, I just thought that you'd said something along those lines. Doubtless also I have pondered over the idea and elaborated it since then. But I do remember someone (I still think it was you) mentioning this idea: and the way that you (or maybe someone else) phrased it struck me very forcibly.

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