Philosophical ramblings on the Adam & Eve Parable

Hello Carico,I have studied theology for thirty years and I know a lot about it. So, what I don't understand is why creationists want us to believe that God made Adam from mud and Eve from a rib. This is obviously a lie, because mud and ribs are different things, so they cannot intermingle. No one has ever witnessed a mudman coming from the womb of a ribwoman since the beginning of recorded history. To even suggest that ribwomen cover themselves in mud is perverse and impossible. And if I am the descendent of Adam, then why am I not missing a rib?Besides, when Eve had just been created by God, did she already know how to cook? It's impossible, because there were no cookbooks. And she couldn't even read either. So what did they eat? Corn flakes?And if Satan and Jesus are brothers, and God loves them both, then why is one in Hell and the other in Heaven? This is not logical and a mistake creationists always make. Their stories are full of contradictions, and it is an oxymoron. And to make their stories fit one another, they have to make up more contradictions.The Bible cannot be God's law, because God's law was carved in two stone tablets and nobody knows where they are. Is it, or is it not true that the Bible is made of paper and if you carve into paper, you cut it up and it becomes useless and you can't read what it says? So the Bible cannot be God's law, because if you carve into the Bible, which is made of paper, you cut it up and it becomes useless and you can't read what it says. It's a lie that creationists have come up with in their imaginations. So, how do you know God's law?You cannot answer any of these questions, because many creationists tell different stories, they cannot agree on many things. If they did, then why are there so many different beliefs?Thank you.P.S.: I won't be able to post for a while, probably the next 12 hours or so. Take your time answering this.

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"Also, all signatures should be done away with if lasting for more than one week. Ok, two weeks." - Robin Rohan

Jaywill,Thank you for your answer. And I apologize to you in advance for what I am about to do. But, being a Christian, you probably know all about sacrifice and therefore shouldn't mind. Think of it as for the greater good and all that. My ways are often mysterious and seldom agreeable. Actually, I am a bit like God in that respect, so if you don't understand my point, that's OK. God and I are used to that.Now, please turn around and bend over. Exactly. That's one point proven: "many creationists tell different stories, they cannot agree on many things" Strike two. More perversity. OK, so the Bible and arithmetic are not compatible. That's strike three: "Their stories are full of contradictions, and it is an oxymoron." God hadn't even completed his creation yet, and he was already thinking about salvation? Bit of a short term planner, was he? Why all the hidden meanings, symbology and small print? Is he also a lawyer or something? Well, small wonder God is such a moody character. I mean, imagine: you come home from a hard day's work creating, say, malaria, and what do you find, bulging all over the couch? An enlarged wife. Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed off too, in an I-am-going-to-flood-the-whole-fucking-world kind of way. Yes, yes, you've said that already. Anyway, you start with one, and you end up with one. So what's the point? Like I said, I've been misunderstood before. It's no big deal. You're not. I suggest that before you study God, you study Carico.This message has been edited by Parasomnium, 14-Dec-2005 11:00 AM

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"Also, all signatures should be done away with if lasting for more than one week. Ok, two weeks." - Robin Rohan

That someone was me, Parasomnium.I must apologize, my flippant reply to you was uncalled for. In my defence I would like to say that if you had not jumped in just like that, and instead had read some of what went before with Carico, you might have thought twice before you posted, as someone suggested.But still, that does not justify my behaviour. Actually I am surprised that the admins didn’t come down on me a little harder. So please accept my apology, normally I do not go around insulting people.

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Great, I’m glad that’s out of the way.I’m afraid, though, that we will not be discussing much, because I have the impression that you are rather into bible study and I don’t find that particularly interesting, I’m more into science. Don’t let my “theological questions” for Carico fool you.But thanks for your understanding.

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Not to worry Mrs. Rohan, don’t let my avatar fool you. In reality I’m a stunning beauty. It’s “André Rieu”, you only omitted an accent. I don’t care very much for his music, I prefer my classical music unpopularized. But lots of people quite enjoy it the way he brings it. So I think it doesn’t hurt to go and listen to him at the fair.

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Why is that so special? Can’t a male feel empathy? If a man loves his wife and sees her in pain during labour, then why shouldn’t he feel sorry for her? Maybe not every man is a “typical male chauvinist”. It should be obvious to anyone who has seen a woman in labour, that the pain that comes with it cannot be a very nice experience. I don’t think it’s beyond a male writer’s comprehension that a description of giving birth should include mention of the accompanying pain a woman suffers.To me, what strikes you in the text you quoted isn’t that profound at all. Now, if the pain wasn’t mentioned, that would raise some eyebrows.

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Carico, welcome back.Please take a look at this. And please don't be offended. It's an attempt to mirror some of your reasoning, in the hope that you will come to understand why we think it a bit strange sometimes.It's not personal.

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