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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
there was a chimpanzee named oliver in the 1970's, popularized as a hybrid between chimps and humans, that walked on two legs. While you are right that Oliver was popularized as a "Humanzee", he was in fact a bonobo, not a chimp. While technically bonobos and chimps are both equally distant from us genetically, the B tendancies to walk on two legs and have sex at the drop of the hat make them much more human-like (or us more bonobo-like) if you ask me.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
cats and dogs have more traits in common than humans and primates Okay, this I gotta hear. Please explain how cats and dogs have more traits in common than, let's say humans and bonobos. I'll get you started. Cats and Dogs both have two eyes.Humans and Bonobos both have two eyes. Oh, crap, I think I ran right off the rails at the start. You try.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
The scientific evidence of Mitochondrial Eve or Chromosomal Adam goes contrary to the evolution theorists beliefs. You either clearly do not have a strong grasp of the theories involved, or you don't understand the word "contrary".
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
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Carico, I for one am getting very bored with your rhetoric. Please post a theory and data to support the theory, or go back to burning nonbelievers at the stake. Frankly, you are taking up good bits here on the internet which could be used to other more important things.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Cats and dogs both have; 4 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, a nose, a mouth, whiskers, mammary glands, hair all over their bodies Last time I checked, humans have four limbs, two eyes, two ears, a nose, a mouth, whisters, mammary glands and hair on their bodies as well. You've done an excellent job of describing MAMMALS. How are cat and dog legs similiar or different? Do dogs have retractable claws? Are dogs more flexible than cats? How are cat and dog eyes similiar or different? Are dog pupils round or slit? How are cat and dog ears similiar or different? Do dogs ears rotate individually like a cats? How are cat and dog noses similiar different? Do bloodhounds have a greater sense of smell than a siamese? How are cat and dog mouths similiar or different? Do dogs have barbs on their tongues for cleaning their fur? How are cat and dog whisters similiar or different? Do dogs have sensitive whisters that spread out from their snouts like a cats?
So, exactly how similiar are cats and dogs really?
But the most important factor about apes and humans is that they cannot breed with each other. And cats and dogs can? Wow! You really need to visit a pet store.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Therefore, apes and humans are not the same species because we cannot interbreed. "apes" are not a species. Humans are apes, gorillas are apes, chimps are apes. And no one is claiming that humans, gorillas and chimps are the same species. No one would expect that humans, gorillas and chimps could interbreed. You have repeatedly built a strawman about evolution. Either you are being disingenuous or ignorant. Which is it? Are you lying, or are you just uneducated about this topic?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
I have never known a mutation to cause one species to turn into another since the beginning of recorded history without that species being able to breed with the first species. Have you? Have you ever seen a great dane/chihuaua hybrid? How about great dane/daschund mix? Great dane/pug? Technically, same species. Differences between them are only minor mutations effecting size. Yet, despite all these breeds being very popular, I don't see any mixes. Why is that? Could it be that these very minor differences have split great danes off from these other breeds?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
So can cats and dogs breed and produce offspring? Wow! You really don't know the answer? Maybe you shouldn't have been making the claim that dogs and cats are so similiar you think?
it's possible for apes to turn into humans without being able to breed with humans. You are the only person on this thread making that claim, Carico. The fact that you've now made it about two dozen times only to declare yourself wrong, just shows us once again how little you actually understand about biology.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
the dictionary says, members of each species have to be able to interbreed with each other to be considered a memeber of the same species. Uhh, the question was why you think that cats and dogs are the same species. Are you backing down on that now? Since biology is obviously a HUGE weakspot for you, let's move onto something you might be able to understand. Math. 1 is a number.2 is a number. 3 is a number. 4 is a number. 5 is a number. They go in order. The order is this: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 1 signifies a single unit. 2 signifies a doubling of that unit, with each subsequent number being an additional single unit. I'll demonstrate 1 of something would look like this: *2 of something would look like this: ** 3 of something would look like this: *** Get it? Let's move on. 1 is not 2. 2 is not 3. 3 is not 4. If you have 1 and you get another 1, you can call that two. It would look like this: * *or like this: ** See how 1 and 1 make 2? In the same way, if you had 2 and you got another 1 it would look like this: ** *or: *** So 2 and 1 make 3. You can extend this forward until you reach 5. (really, you can go much further than 5, but I don't want your brain to explode) So: * * * * *is 1 and 1 and 1 and 1 and 1 or is the same as ***** But: * is not ***** It's just a step on the way to 5. The fact that you jump up and down and post that "1 is not 5" and "1 can never be 5" doesn't change the fact that 1+1+1+1+1=5. You are right, 1 is not 5. No mathematician is out there saying that 1 and 5 are the same. Do you understand this? Or, is your understanding of math based on those same "30 years" of study you did about evolution?
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Breeding is what causes one species to acquire the genes of another. You just said that two species can not interbreed, so how is it that "breeding" is what causes a species to acquire genes of another species? You are contradicting yourself.
Again, which do you think it is? Ignorance or outright lying? Personally, I think you are ignorant, since someone with an education should be able to come up with a better lie than what you are spouting here.
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
Ooh ohh, let me try...
dog, horse, cow, human, pig, cat, gorilla horse, human, gorilla - more than 3 letters
dog, cow, pig, cat - 3 letters How DARE YOU suggest that all things with more than 3 letters can interbreed! That's just sick! Apples can not interbreed with Pianos! Celery can not interbreed with Wyoming! More lies upon lies from you Theory of Alphabet supporters!
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Nuggin Member (Idle past 2522 days) Posts: 2965 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Joined: |
It is YOU who said that humans breed with apes. I have given you the scientific definition of "ape". You can't understand it/won't accept it. I have given you the encyclopedic definition of "ape". You can't understand it/won't accept it. I have asked you to define "ape". You have refused, implying that you simple don't understand the word at all. If you yourself can not answer simple questions about a 3 LETTER word that you insist on using, how do you expect any of us to take you seriously. I'm honestly starting to think that Carico is an Admin prank. A test to see how far they can go before people start flaming
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