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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
NosyNed writes: Some evidence of the exodus in the desert might be pretty cool too even thought the thread discussing that seems to make it clear that it is not likly to be found. Corroborating evidence of the Exodus has been found, each of the evidences corroborating the others in the region in question so as to strengthen the case for the Biblical Exodus with each of the strong corroborating positives weakening the weaker questionable negatives regarding the debate. Ned, your comments referring to the Exodus thread appear to be in the present tense. Is there an open Exodus thread? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Please edit your post to explain the significance, if any, of the material. You can provide links to your sources but do not just cut & paste the material. I don't mean to contend with your action here, Jar, but Jackie has done such a thourough job of researching and digging up all this interesting and relative data to topic that I would request you make this an exception, allowing it stand as posted. It's all going in my documents for future reference and I'm sure others would appreciate it as well. I haven't yet logged in on the links, but it appears that Jackie has selected significant statements from the links cited. It may be time consuming for readers to readily find the complete data that she has selected. Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Thanks Asgara. Yes, for sure, I should have checked out the date of Ned's post.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: I would say the phrasing of the conclusion in itslef betrays a strong bias. ............ Archaeology is only really useful in dealing with cases like the Book of Mormon - where the writer is relying heavily on imagination for even basic issues that archaeology can more easily address. Your own bias is showing, Paul. Jackie asked if you'd like to respond to some of her cited usefulness of archeology in some areas that have been contested and that are important. It would be interesting to see your response to some of them, given your statement above. How does archeology address the Mormon BOM? I assume you mean there's no archeological data to confirm it. Is that correct? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: For example, the main reason we know for a fact that the Biblical description of the conquest of Canaan is wrong is archaeology. We can read the letters remaining from the period and area, we can see that Egypt was still in control except for a few of the most northern city states. There is no indication of any invading army, any Hebrews. We also know that many of the cities mentioned as being large walled towns were not even ocuppied and other were but villages at the time. Nothing is written in stone here. All the pieces to the puzzle are not in place yet. Archeology has also produced the corroborating evidence of the Exodus, with evidence of the chariot wheels of Pharoahs army at the sandbar at Nuweiba Beach along with the other corroborating evidence of the region. As I stated above, the archeological positives of the Exodus top the negatives, imo. Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Buz, that's not archaeology. Neither the wheel or the beach has been surveyed or confirmed by ANY archaeologists. Archeology = the study and science of ancient people and cultures.Archeologist = students of and specialists in archeology. Jar, I do most of my own auto repair, but I am not a specialist in auto repair as a profession. Whether I am the mechanic doing it or have a specialist do it, it gets repaired and automobile repairing is being done. I am doing auto mechanics. I recently rebuilt my own EGR tube on a late model Ford van which was unavailable anywhere, including Ford. The professional mechanic could not repair it! The same goes with archeology. Anyone studying or doing scientific research on ancient people and cultures are practicing archeology.
jar writes: When some of the assertions are confirmed by independant peer review, bring the evidence here. We'd love to be shown wrong. 1. It was from Biblical information that led the pioneers to the discovery of the Nuweiba crossing and to the corroborating evidence of the crossing. 2. No secularist archeologists or peer reviews were interested because most of them, like you, regard the Bible as myth.
jar writes: We've been over this many, many times in the past, most recently in Message 1 (Thread "THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO), Message 1 (Thread "The Exodus Revealed" Video II) and Message 1 (Thread Exodus Revealed (Part 2)). So far no one has stepped up with ANY archaeological evidence whatsoever. Says the skeptic who's likely neither seen the video or read the book and who has no viable answer as to those photographed evidences all corroborating one another. Btw, me friend, do you think all of Jackies above linked data is also moot in regard to lending evidence to the respective Biblical accounts? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Thanks much, Jackie for blessing us with the stuff you've researched and linked us up to. It's a superb job and a keeper for future reference. We need people like you here, so I hope you will hang out here and join us the debates and discussion.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
PaulK writes: I'm afraid Jackie's research isn't that good. Or she'd have spotted the fact that the Jehoash inscription has been exposed as a fake. So that's one which you consider to be in question. What about all the others? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: ......... they add NO support to the theology of the Bible at all. ..... Is this another Jar obfuscative word games? Are we discussing biblical theology or are we talking Biblical historical credibility here? So we'll do do the round about long process, i.e. the jar modus operandi. I'll raise the bar for you to see how you do. Jar, do they lend any support to the historical credibility of the respective Biblical accounts to which they pertain? AbE: 1st sentence This message has been edited by buzsaw, 01-07-2006 04:08 PM Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: No, most do not. "Most do not" looks like you think some do. Sepecifically which ones do you think lend some support to the historical credibility of the respective Biblical accounts to which they pertain? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Well, none actually support the historical accounts other than very indirectly. For example, I can write a complete fiction where I mention the B&O roundhouse. The fact that the B&O roundhouse exists, is not support for my fictional account beyond the simple fact that I used something that does or did exist as color in the fiction. Ok, now we're getting somewhere in this tedious exchange. So you seem to imply by your analogy that those archeological discoveries, Jackie has cited, which verify that certain controversial Biblical people, events or places actually existed do lend some support to the historical credibility of the respective Biblical accounts to which they pertain. Is that correct? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Brian writes: I get bewildered at the leaps people make when they read about archaeology, I really wish they would take time to find out what archaeology is. Hi Brian. I didn't mean to ignore you in the chat room. I didn't know what I was doing, but had a pleasant visit with all you friendly folks there. Anyhow as per topic, it bewilders me when secularist folks throw out the baby with the bath water with Biblical archeology. I guess many are sooo afraid that if they acknowledge one significant find, especially involving miracle, they're in trouble ideologically. What is archeology? I defined it, according to my dictionary. Is there a problem with that? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: No. Can't imagine where you got that idea. Thanks for your help in the chat room and elsewhere. I got my speaker working. Ok, I see, using your analogy was a stretch. However, would you concede that archeology has lent some support that King David existed around the time of the Biblical account? Gravity is God's glue that holds his universe together.
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