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jar
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Message 82 of 128 (276515)
01-06-2006 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Buzsaw
01-06-2006 8:26 PM


Archaeology is very important.
For example, the main reason we know for a fact that the Biblical description of the conquest of Canaan is wrong is archaeology. We can read the letters remaining from the period and area, we can see that Egypt was still in control except for a few of the most northern city states. There is no indication of any invading army, any Hebrews. We also know that many of the cities mentioned as being large walled towns were not even ocuppied and other were but villages at the time.

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jar
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Message 84 of 128 (276534)
01-06-2006 9:54 PM
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01-06-2006 9:39 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
Buz, that's not archaeology. Neither the wheel or the beach has been surveyed or confirmed by ANY archaeologists.
When some of the assertions are confirmed by independant peer review, bring the evidence here. We'd love to be shown wrong.
We've been over this many, many times in the past, most recently in Message 1, Message 1 and Message 1. So far no one has stepped up with ANY archaeological evidence whatsoever.
Nope, so far there is NO evidence whatsoever that there was ever an Exodus as described in the Bible and there is overwhelming evidence that the Conquest of Canaan as descibed in the Bible simply never happened.

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jar
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Message 89 of 128 (276660)
01-07-2006 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Buzsaw
01-06-2006 10:53 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
Btw, me friend, do you think all of Jackies above linked data is also moot in regard to lending evidence to the respective Biblical accounts?
No, I would not say worthless. However they add NO support to the theology of the Bible at all. They are valuable. For example, the cites she has related to Jericho prove that the Biblical account is incorrect. No one said, as her messages implied, that there was no interaction between Edom and the Hebrews, what folk said was that there was no evidence of Hebrew-Edomite connections.
In Jackie's links, there could well be very valuable references to archaeological discoveries.
Says the skeptic who's likely neither seen the video or read the book and who has no viable answer as to those photographed evidences all corroborating one another.
Yes, as I have said before, I have seen the video. And it is certainly not persuasive. In addition, I have commented here many, many times on the alleged photographic evidence. Most of it has been obviouosly doctored or misinterpreted. For example, the alleged guard shack is not a guard shack at all (gate does not corresponde with the door, there are no observation windows in the structure), the pictures of the wheels have been "enhanced", the glyphs are common throughout the area and date to a period approxiamtely 2000 years before the alleged Exodus, the altar is not an altar, the alleged calves are not calves, there are also phallic symbols, hunting scenes and other critters mixed in, the so called "Egyptian Style Bull Glyph" is a doctored picture of two separate glyphs where the producers smuged out the phallic symbol.
Sorry buz but the video is simply a fraud.

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jar
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Message 93 of 128 (276724)
01-07-2006 4:14 PM
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01-07-2006 4:06 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
No, most do not. They add NO historical support and, as I said, in many cases they prove the Biblical account wrong.

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jar
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Message 95 of 128 (276747)
01-07-2006 5:52 PM
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01-07-2006 5:49 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
Well, none actually support the historical accounts other than very indirectly. For example, I can write a complete fiction where I mention the B&O roundhouse. The fact that the B&O roundhouse exists, is not support for my fictional account beyond the simple fact that I used something that does or did exist as color in the fiction.

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jar
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Message 98 of 128 (276753)
01-07-2006 6:13 PM
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01-07-2006 6:11 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
No. Can't imagine where you got that idea.

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jar
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Message 100 of 128 (276757)
01-07-2006 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Brian
01-07-2006 6:25 PM


Re: Not quite
I get bewildered at the leaps people make when they read about archaeology, I really wish they would take time to find out what archaeology is.
Amen Brother. Preach the gospel.

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jar
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Message 107 of 128 (276794)
01-07-2006 8:20 PM
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01-07-2006 8:18 PM


Re: Archaeology is very important.
Not yet. So far there's no real evidence that there was a King David or anything like a Kingdom. I do think it likely that there might have been some minor City Rulers that we later expanded into the Saul and David stories of the Bible. But even that is a streatch from any archaeological finds so far.
Trying to make the Bible a history or science text loses the purpose. It's there to teach us how to live. It matters not if the stories are true, contain but a grain or truth, are exagerated folktales or total myth, the meaning and message is still true.
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jar
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Message 110 of 128 (276836)
01-07-2006 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by arachnophilia
01-07-2006 9:28 PM


Re: i really hate to point this out
but kings and maybe samuel certainly are at least partly histories.
I don't have a big issue with that.
They read like other epic myths, histories of a peoples or an era. In addition, as you say, it depends greatly on what they are trying to say. They are classic Historical Novel, much like Dickens, or Steinbeck, Sir Walter Scott or Mark Twain might write.
The question was "have any of the recent archaeological finds supported the Biblical Historic accounts". My point is that putting too much emphasis on the archaeology and trying to force the Bible to be a history book diminishes the message, the theology.

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