Bible Cryptids/Dinosaurs?

NOw about the Indricothere: I just learned that this massive 15 ton beast was a browser, not a grazer, according to the "simon & Schuster Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs & Prehistoric Beasts" and in the same book it said that it's nose bones where quite weak. It seems that even the Indricothere was not the Behemoth of JOb 40.Leviathan, as I have shown is not to be taken as a supernatural beast (in this passage at least)but I would like to hear your reasons why it was mythological. Hope you reply soon

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I will take that into consideration. I'm glad I've met another person who feels about Answersingenesis like myself

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Yes I've heared of this story before. I can just bust a gut when I think about it (LOL)I did hint in the post you replied to that a dino bone could be thought of as a phallus, though I forgot that it could also look like Testicles as well. Thanks for the story

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

It seesm that Job did know about Leviathan from the passage in Job 41, though it doesn't rule out that he knew this animal as a mythological/supernatural one.But if you look at the poetic language used in Job 41, you can see that this animal is nothing more than a fierce, nightmarish animal, yet one that is not mythological. The "flames" it emits from it's mouth could be some form of self defense mechanism, which could have looked like or felt like fire. Just like it's "shields" are not metal armored shields like warriors use, but scales.It seems to me like it is just another unknown animal like behemoth. The fact that it is named after the supernatural beast called "Leviathan" doesn't make it supernatural, anymore than the name "Tasmanian Devil" makes that animal a true demon, or the "Gorgon" a huge Protomammal carnivore that lived before the dinosaurs is a demon or mythical monster because it is named "gorgon" (also galled "Gorgonopsian) Leviathan in this passage (Job 41)is probably called as such because it reminded the ancients of the supernatural monster that bared the name in question, just as the Tasmanian Devil was named as such because of it's "Devilish" call and viciousness and the Gorgon was named after the greek Gorgon because of it's ugliness and savage appearance.bTW: the "Gorgon" is discussed in "Gorgon: The Monsters that ruled the Planet before Dinosaurs and how they died in the greatest catastrophe in Earth's History" by Peter D. Ward. good book

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

LOL good one Crash.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I had the idea once that the Leviathan here was in fact the monsterous "Liopleurodon" the 80 foot long 150 ton carnivorous sea reptile that lived in the Jurassic. But I dont think it could have survived up to the present, let alone if it had the same self defense mechanism as Leviathan does ("fire")Good idea for a time, but it seems more likely that the "Leviathan" was some sort of crypto animal.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I think this has been the best debate I have had on here. Doesn't mean I am winning it (yet to be seen. You guys TOUGH!!)But it is the best I have been on here. I enjoy it a whole lot better than the abortion one (AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!)

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

BTW: Since your wife is a biologist, maybe you can answer this: Do testicles have sinews? That would be helpful with the thigh/stones part of this debate.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I fail to see your point. Whales are named "Leviathan" in modern hebrew, yet any large animal of the prehistoric world and modern times can be called "Leviathan" do to it's size. Giant Squid? Leviathan! Whale Shark? Leviathan! Liopleurodon? Leviathan! If a massive sea reptile like Kronosaurus or Liopleurodon where around today in abundance, the they, not whales, might have been called "Leviathan" in modern hebrew. Usually anything massive and huge in the sea can and has been called "Leviathan". Just becuase whales are called as such in modern hebrew ultimately proves that the Leviathan of Job 41 is mythical?So what if whales are named after Leviathan in modern hebrew? It doesn't automatically make the "Leviathan" of Job 41 mythical. The scales? Crocs and snakes have scales, and they are not mythical. "Fire" ? this is probably as I have said before, a self denfense mechanism. Bombarder Beetles shoot out super hot liquid from their abdomens. Fireflies generate light in their rears. The electric eel can generate electricity. Yet Leviathan in this passage has to be mythical becuase it emits "fire" which is more than likely something which resembled fire to the ancients?If this was the supernatural Leviathan, the one with many heads (as Litan of Ugaritic legend and the "Leviathan" of Psalm 74:14) why does the "Leviathan of Job 41 have only one tongue, one nose, one jaw (Job 41:1-2)That does not sound like a multi-headed beast of myth/supernatural like That of Psalm 74:14 and Isaiah 27:1.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

As for the Gorgons: Yes, I knew that the Protomammal "Gorgon" was named after the "Gorgons" of greek myth. That was the point I was making. If the Protomammal "Gorgon" was named after the "Gorgons" of Greek myth becuase it was horrendous and terrifying in appearance, then the "Leviathan" of Job 41 was most likely named after the supernatural "Leviathan" due to it's ferocity and formidability.Sorry if I sounded rude in my last post. I dont want to seem vicious, but on this forum I cant tell where politeness ends and harshness begins LOL

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Good post mandytiger

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

BTW: You say that the modern hebrew word for "Leviathan" is for "whale" but what whale? What species? It seems that all whales are under the modern hebrew "Leviathan"

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I have already shown that the "fire" is poetic wording no doubt refferring to the "Leviathan's" self defense mechanism. Do you think that it has actual shields like warriors use on it's back (Job 41:15)? Does Behemoth actually have bronze bones (JOb 40:18)? Then why are you adamant that the fire/lighting here is literal? Why is it mythical?And yes, the "Leviathan" of Job 41 is NOT the same as the supernatural Leviathan mentioned elsewhere. The supernatural one, like Litan, has many heads. It will be fought by God in the last days. This Leviathan in Job 41 is only one headed, and if you remember the poetic language (Job is widsom and poetry) then you can see that it is nothing more than a real animal, one that science has yet to discover.Do you have any evidence, based on the text, that this "Leviathan" of Job 41 is mythical?

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Answer my question first and i'll answer yours.Do you see anything in the passage that points to myth?

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Do you know what firgurative language is? Elephants dont need to use their tusks to defend themselves against natural predators, for size alone protects them. Yet those tusks come in handy for a bull elephant when a rival male challenges him into a fight.Komodo Dragons dont have to rely on their disease infected saliva that they use when they bite their prey (Land of Lost Monsters" by Ted Oakes, page 60)to defend themselves from much smaller creatures. their bite alone is good enough to dispatch much smaller creatures. Yet it's bacteria infested saliva, when applied to their sharp teeth in a savage bite, makes an effective weapon against large prey.BTW: I did some research on the web. It seesm that the "fire" that Leviathan seems to emit could very well be figurative of a hiss that a Crocodile makes. If you combine the hiss of a croc with the breath of a Croc on a cold morning (could be seen by ancient people as "smoke") then you could very well have people writing of Crocs as having "breath of fire" in a poetical, figurative sense.The info abou fire/croc hiss can be found at:Leviathan - WikipediaGiven the above info, it seems that I was probably wrong to think that the "Leviathan" of Job 41 was some unknown animal; It seems likely to be a Croc. But I was right in that the "fire" was figurative of something else.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4