The faith that is being asked for is not God using faith, it's the priest using the faith of the members of their religion in themselves but with the exceptions of the few who claim to be God they mostly like the Wizard of Oz tell you don't look behind the curtain, look up at the altar and have faith that I (a human being just like yourself) have am telling you something I can't prove but you must have faith BECAUSE (and this is the switch) God wants you to have faith.
Whew, that's one helluva sentence. I'm having trouble understanding all of it with its poor grammer and missing punctuation but I will try to address it.
I think god wants you to have faith becuase he doesn't provide any proof for his existance, either that or he doesn't exist. But if he does exist, he must want us to use faith or he would show himself.
I don't really care about the tricks that priests or prophets use.
You, Phat, Faith all the believers who offer up entirely human thinking only claiming that the part that speaks about God is supposed to be non human wisdom, divine spirit wisdom, or something.
Yep, I'd have to say there is some non-human component involved.
Like Dorothy we are supposed to keep our eyes on the talking head on the altar and notice that all talking is always being done by another human being.
Nah, I'd say look inside yourself (not literally of course).
God, the Great Wizard of Oz is just the claims of some human being or another, Paul, Joseph Smith, Mohammed, and so on and so forth.
Well, I feel like I have some of my own subjective evidence other than the claims of other people. This, of course, is no benefit to you, but I do think that god is more than just a claim of somebody's, for me at least.
If there is a god it's seems to me that it uses the laws of physics.
What about miracles?
Science in attempting to actually understand the universe is more "religious" that is to say a more genuine relationship to the divine than religion as it looks to what actually is rather than the explanations dreamed up by the priests and prophets.
Except science is limited in its ability to detect things that are not 'of this world', if they exist at all.
I came up with my own explanations, as opposed to relying on others to feed me explanations, and I found that they closely resemble some of explanations by others so I don't think they are total bullshit.
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