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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
the real problem is that religious people simply want to tell the rest of us when and how we can have sex. No the real problem is when YOU HAVE SEX, YOU CAN GET PREGNANT!!! Has nothing to do with being an evil woman. This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 04-16-2006 07:33 AM
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
yes. and you want to tell me that i can't have sex until i'm married. and you think that if i do and i get pregnant i should be punished with it. a child as a form of punishment. that's a great way for him to grow up. No, your not listening (reading). You can have sex whenever you want. If you do, You can get pregnant, OMG. It's pretty simple. Saw my mom yesterday, told her, hey mom, thanks for not getting an abortion. My younger sister was standing there, and she said, nope, that would have been me. My mother almost got an abortion on her pregnancy. It was such a great moment in life.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I'll bet Hitler said the same thing to his mom, too. Before or after he cooked her? j/k So all we have to do is come up with a way to see who is going to be like Hitler, and just abort those babies. Fair enough.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
That is not an argument, because there is no person that can thank his/her mother for having an abortion. Well isn't that just the whole point right there in a nutshell?
Every person today has a mother that didnt have an abortion (when he/she was a fetus). All hail the reproduction process!!!
Therfore, the only thing you are saying is that you are alive, and that is redundant. I only said it once.If I said thanks, then I must be happy about it. I bet if she had gotten an abortion you wouldnt be saying that. I don't know, I tell you when I'm dead, if that's possible or not.
But I know of alot of people that wish that there mother would have gotten an abortion, and maybe waited for her to be ready for a baby or taken better care of other siblings. Or maybe they should have wished that she didn't have sex, since that is the root cause of pregnacy. mmmm. Do we fix the symptoms, or the problem, let's see.......
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If your mother came to you and said, you were almost an abortion, wouldn't that affect you?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well isn't that just the whole point right there in a nutshell? No it isnt because you have no situation to compare the situation for which you give graditude to. Thats why it isnt an argument. Exactly, that's the point. And if there is no arguement, then leave it alone. Once conception happens, and you end it by forceful means, then the person doesn't have a chance to say anything, that's the point. So you are responsible for ending that chance from ever happening.
[qs]So you have to realise that there are people that there are people that would be better of not having any more babies dispite having sex.[qs]
Yes, having sex makes babies.
The fetus is irrelevant until it is conscience in the same way skin cells are irrelevant (they too can become people). This is the biggest bunch of BS ever spoke in this forum.There is no logical comparison going on there, and you should be the last one to talk about equating things after that statement.
That not a proper equation because if your mother would have had an abortion, its not that you would be dead, 'you' wouldnt even exist. Oh, I existed alright.As you can see, she didn't get an abortion, and here I am. Thats hardly a logical equation If your pipes were leaking in your house, would you prefer me to come over and put tape around the pipes, that would last a few days, and keep coming back and taping, and charging you, or would you prefer me to just fix the pipe, the root cuse of the problem. Don't speak to me about logic, unless you are actually going to make sense. I am a realist.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I would really respect all of those who are for abortion much more if they would just admit that life begins at inception, and intercourse can cause life to begin, and the real reason they want abortions is so that they don't have suffer for their mistakes.
It's pretty simple. I just get sick of all the justifications people are coming up with. Who are you guys kidding?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
That's pretty silly jar.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
There is no person until conscience, There is no difference between interupting life in the womb, as interupting life of say a 5 year old.
From what point in the reproduction The second a sperm makes it in. Isn't that what people who want a baby so bad and can't have one (in some cases) pay big bucks for? Isn't that the magic moment?
I meant to say that there are people that would like not to have a baby, dispite continuing to have sex, There are people who jump off cliffs, and do not wish to get hurt, there are people who drag race, and don't want to die doing it, there are people who shydive, and hope their chutes don't fail. But with those examples, they are playing games with their own lives, which is a risk you take. This doesn't stop from whats going to happen, from happening.
Its a hypothetical situation. Then don't mention it, because here I are.
if the mother cant support a child, she obviosly shouldnt have unprotected sex, but if she does and gets pregnant (it happens) she can deside to abort the fetus before it is conscience That is not an answer to my question. Abortion promotes unwarranted sex. Hey we can screw all we want, without having any reprocussions! It's all about selfishness, and this world being out of control. I just don't like the path it is going down. It has nothing to do with God really. We lose all respect for life, and the process that got us here when we do things like this. But on the other hand, the only good reason I have heard so far for making abortion legal is that people will get abortions anyway, and they will be much worse if it's not legal. So where in the pregnancy do you draw the line? What to you is the gift of life?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
brain dead after an accident for example Aren't there cases when they remove life support, and the person continues to live? I think the brain dead example is not a good one. People who "become" brain dead, are done so by outside forces. If I caused it by shooting someone in the head, then I would go to jail.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Asssuming you consider the nascent 'conception' (zygote) a complete person and accord it all the same rights. Oh, and don't some conceptions also happen by 'forceful means'. You are not reading this thread, or the other one.
Because by trying to deny her the right to a decision, you are 'de facto' making it for her. I am pro-choice. You are free to decide if you want to have sex or not.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I don't think so. It's the truth.
People want to have sex, without the reprocussions. It's so plainly obvious that intercourse can cause pregnancies.It is plainly obvious that with a sperm enters an egg, it is a precious moment that starts life. This is a fact. People who want to have a baby, are absolutly changed when that precious moment happens. For them, if some outside force was to interupt that process, then they would want legal action. It's all about selfishness. It's a regretable action to abort a baby. I would respect everyone more, if they would just admit that.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If she had aborted me, I would never have existed to think about it, would I? I didn't ask you that, so I do not know why you answered that.
It would explain a lot of things. I will pray for that.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
What about a zygote that doesn't have a brain? Technically and brain dead person, doesn't have one either. What would be the reason for that?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Yeah, because having an abortion is so much fun that I have gotten preganant 13 or 14 times just because I LOVE having abortions! So, to you it IS a regretable action, I knew it.There is hope for you yet Then we'd better start putting hundreds of thousands of girls and women in prison, or executing them, for premeditated, first degree murder then, correct? That includes your girlfriend, and you, too, as an accessory to murder. If it was illegal.
I thought you said that life begins at conception, not implantation. Which is it? Conception. Good morning to you, have a nice day schraf.
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