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Topic: When Adam met Eve
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 1 of 111 (306583)
04-25-2006 8:56 PM
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I imagine it would have been similar to the first girl/boy you fell for. An awakening of something within you that you didn't know you had. And more. You looked into the face of someone who, unlike God was the same kind as you. Not just like him. Looking into the eyes of another person for the first time. The first 'disturbance' of your relationship with him. The same as you, but different. And she was attractive. Another new. To be attracted to someone - for the first time. The very first time. Only better. edited to clarify This message has been edited by iano, 26-Apr-2006 10:43 AM
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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When God made woman, neither man nor God has rested lol The sisterhood is watching LP. Be careful out there  And to think, without sin Adam would have been able to say "I love you" not "I love you but..."
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 12 of 111 (306679)
04-26-2006 9:22 AM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Eis_baer
04-26-2006 8:34 AM
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Would they have ever (have) had sex if the "fall" never happened. Why do you say that? Do you think sex is sinful or something?
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 14 of 111 (306681)
04-26-2006 9:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Eis_baer
04-26-2006 9:30 AM
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Abba!
Ah I see what you mean Genesis 2:24 seems to deal with your assumption. I wouldn't say ignorant just uninformed
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 16 of 111 (306699)
04-26-2006 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by ringo
04-26-2006 11:08 AM
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Re: Abba!
Mama Mia! Aggie has aged well.
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 19 of 111 (306721)
04-26-2006 12:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 17 by Heathen
04-26-2006 12:01 PM
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I put the word disturbance between '' so as to offset the possibility that someone would immediately leap to the mysogyny conclusion. If pigs could fly...
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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You mean.. mammy and daddy have sex?
Indeed, it might be possible that Eve became Pregnant before the Serpent and fruit incident. Read around. Adam lay with her and she became pregnant. Where I can't remember but it should answer this question for you too. IIRC it was post-Fall.
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 85 of 111 (308392)
05-02-2006 5:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 83 by ringo
05-01-2006 6:47 PM
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Adam & Eve: before and after
You can't appreciate life without death. Nor appreciate spiritual life without once having been spiritually dead. Adam and Eve no doubt appreciated by losing it. They might have been born again however.
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 99 of 111 (308607)
05-02-2006 9:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 98 by ringo
05-02-2006 8:57 PM
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When Adam met Eve: "Hi...I'm Adam and your... (let me think for a sec)....?
What kind of incompetent creator would allow his creation to "fall"? Presumably, any kind. On the other hand a creator who gave free will and let the free-willed beings decide for themselves (whilst all the while achieving a greater plan) might be actually very smart. Smarter than you or me even. Perish at the thought?
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 101 of 111 (308621)
05-02-2006 9:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 100 by ringo
05-02-2006 9:31 PM
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Re: When Adam met Eve: "Hi...I'm Adam and your... (let me think for a sec)....?
I have no problem with God letting us decide for ourselves. I have a problem with the idea that the whole creation "fell" because of something that Adam and Eve did - and that "fall" effected all of the animals, etc. Have you a problem with hitlers (I know I know..but it is such a... good analogy) dominion having repercussions for those under his dominion. That those under his dominion suffered more than he did? Do you have a problem with an innocent foetus having a disease transmitted to it. A disease it had nothing to do with catching?
Our "fall from grace" is an individual fall, like the prodigal son leaving home. But the home is what it always was and the Father is always waiting there for us. Mixing your methaphores helps not a jot This message has been edited by iano, 03-May-2006 02:54 AM
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 103 of 111 (308632)
05-02-2006 10:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 102 by ringo
05-02-2006 10:03 PM
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Re: When Adam met Eve: "Hi...I'm Adam and your... (let me think for a sec)....?
Those things would have happened anyway. That's the way the world is. That's the way it was created. To suggest that man somehow "corrupted" the creation is to suggest that we are greater than the Creator. That would imply that the creator couldn't give dominion of a perfect earth to man (he patently could) and that man couldn't bugger it up for all (free will dictates the possibility - if dominion means dominion as exampled) Your putting the creator in a box of your own fabrication here Ringo
It's not a mixed metaphor at all. The world is our home - it was built for us by our Father. By turning our backs on our Father, we go out into a "world" of our own making, a personal "fallen" world, as it were. But that doesn't mean that the real world isn't still there, that our real home isn't still there. So the Father created earthquakes and tornados. Natural disasters of variety beyond compare. Not to mention disease, excruciating pain (a little would be enough for us to get the message- you've got a cavity "I repent of my sweet tooth!!"). Home sweet home.... As usual: vacuous statements on a par with my well-excavated left molar
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 105 of 111 (308725)
05-03-2006 9:44 AM
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Reply to: Message 104 by ringo
05-02-2006 10:29 PM
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Re: When Adam Met Steve
Obviously. Nothing that exists was made except by Him. Sin exists. This was made by God. That is why God paid the price for sin. He paid the price for his own sin. IT FITS!!
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iano
Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 109 of 111 (308773)
05-03-2006 12:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 107 by ringo
05-03-2006 12:04 PM
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The Lord give it - the Lord take it away QED?
Obviously. Nothing that exists was made except by Him. Does sin exist? If so was it not made by God - given the above statement of yours?
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