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Does God = Allah

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Message 25 of 302 (306757)
04-26-2006 3:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
04-26-2006 2:23 PM

Re: Faith? Where are you when we need you?
Demons lie, that's their job.
Yes, a good example of this is that demon who claimed to be the son of God, "jesus" was it?
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Message 41 of 302 (306782)
04-26-2006 4:19 PM 		Reply to: Message 39 by Faith
04-26-2006 4:16 PM

Re: contradictions
EITHER Jesus Christ is the Son of God or he is a mere prophet. It can't be both. You must choose.
So Jews don't worship the same god as christians? After all they don't recognize jesus as the son od god.
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Message 52 of 302 (306793)
04-26-2006 4:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 50 by Faith
04-26-2006 4:38 PM

Re: Same God, different worship
I have shown that the God of the Jews and the Christians is not the same God as Allah.
Period.
No you've asserted it. Yes there are contradictions between their respective mythologies, but you haven't shown that any of the mythologies are 100% true. So the Muslims could be worshipping the same god as the christians but the christians just received a corrupted and inaccurate text, or vice versa.
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Message 60 of 302 (306805)
04-26-2006 5:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 57 by Faith
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Re: Same God, different worship
One says clearly that Isaac is the heir and the other that Ishmael is; one says that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, the other that he is merely a prophet. To call this "corruption" is laughable.
So someone wrote something down wrong or fabricated something to make their guy seem more favorable, doesn't change the nature of the God. As Jar is fond of saying the map is not the territory, the religion is not the god.
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But you cannot claim that both worship the same God.
Really? Cause I just did, in fact I'll do it again: They both worship the same God.
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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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Message 61 of 302 (306806)
04-26-2006 5:06 PM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Faith
04-26-2006 4:59 PM

Re: Either one or none is true.
My God is not the same as the Muslim's God or the same as the Jewish God.
Then how can christianity claim any validity when its based on the misappropriated texts of a seperate religion?.
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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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Message 230 of 302 (307594)
04-28-2006 11:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 227 by Buzsaw
04-28-2006 10:25 PM

Re: Allah Moon God
why don't you have the courtesy to document stuff as is required in the science forums and for that matter the guidelines.
This is not a science forum. This is faith and belief, a forum that various mods have stated that evidence is not required and that a simple "I believe" is enough. I could say: I believe that the christian god is a laughable attempt to imitate the one true god, Odin the Allfather and you'd have to accept that as my belief.
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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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Message 242 of 302 (307628)
04-29-2006 12:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 240 by Faith
04-28-2006 11:54 PM

By the holy books written for the purpose of elucidating their nature. The holy books contradict each other on crucial attributes and character of God. This is how they are proved to be different concepts and therefore the different religions are worshiping different Gods, and this is how it HAS been proved on this thread in a number of posts.
But the books are not god. They are books, written by men. All you've proven is that the religions worship god differently you haven't proven that its a different god.
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edited to add: Say you have 3 witnesses to a car crash, they give you three different and partly contradictory accounts. What they say does not change what really happenned.
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