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ThingsChange
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Message 11 of 302 (306734)
04-26-2006 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Heathen
03-03-2006 11:47 AM


Faith? Where are you when we need you?
What view Do biblical literalists hold with regards to the authenticity of the Qu'ran. and vice versa.
The Christian fundamentalists I know do not see the Quran as authentic. I would be curious to see how a Christian fundamentalist justifies anything other than the Bible.

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Message 200 of 302 (307418)
04-28-2006 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
04-28-2006 12:56 PM


Maybe God only wants a few
Using your definitions of worship I would say about 80-90% of christians are worshipping a false god/idol under your rules.
That includes a large number of Christians on this forum.
If I may answer for Faith, since she is fending off about 20 swordsmen/women... and since I believe Faith has more of basis for her beliefs than those other self-proclaimed Christians who rationalize the Bible and pick and choose what to follow
You are correct. But what makes you think that 90% is worshipping correctly? And who are we to know how demanding God is of us?
If God communicated to Man a written expectation of behaviour (of which there are 3 main candidate documents), and if 90% are marching to their own interpretation instead of what is written, then maybe 90% are indeed wrong.
For all we know, God may be a sports fan and has created a playoff system for a small number of us to make it to the next round. If that is true, then I am way way down on the list as an agnostic. But, maybe Faith can establish a line of reasoning to convince me.

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Message 202 of 302 (307430)
04-28-2006 3:05 PM
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04-28-2006 2:42 PM


Spaghetti reasoning, not line of reasoning
Creavolution writes:
...a line of reasoning...
The trouble with religion in this world is that there are many lines of reasoning... therefore, I would call it spaghetti line of reasoning.
Unlike science, where knowledge builds on past empirical data and arguments are supported or not, the religious community as a whole does not have or even want something similar to resolve differences. I guess that is because differences cannot be resolved (maybe that's why many radical Islamists feel that they need a sword). That means there are no clear-cut conclusions that rate one line of belief over another.
The web offers such an opportunity to debate and build a tree of knowledge about what the Bible (and Quran) means and who is right on specific topics. Is there a web site where Baptists, Catholics, etc. can argue and settle differences of interpretation? No? Then, what does that tell you about the "inerrant" basis? OK, I know, I know,... it's not meant to be crystal clear in some areas...keep studying all your life and maybe God made some things nebulous to get Christians to study until death.
Therefore,
A fundamentalist arrives at a conclusion that the Bible is inerrant.
Later after some studying, some "apparent discrepancies" are discovered. However, the commitment that there are no discrepancies (inerrant) does not mean there really is a discrepancy, it just means you have to find an explanation that is possible (not plausible).
For example: What were Jesus's last words?
"Why hast thou forsaken me?"
or
"It is finished"
I would like to hear if Faith's explanation is the same as what I have heard.

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