A Question About Deception

They knew they were not suppossed to eat the fruit, right?Or are you claiming they didn't even know that?

They knew they were not supposed to eat the fruit. They knew it was wrong. They were not intimate with the concept...that's true, and so they lacked knowledge, but that doesn't mean they didn't know it was wrong to disobey God and eat the fruit.If they didn't know it was wrong, then why the punishment? You seem to be arguing you think they believed it was OK to disobey God.Edited by randman, : No reason given.

Yea, but somehow I don't think you'd curse the ground and boot the 2 year old out of home for doing something they were incapable of realizing was wrong. Oh, and getting booted out of Eden was punishment. So was death, and the ground being cursed, etc, etc,....

No I haven't. People can know things without being intimate with them. Nope, not at all. You can lack knowledge of an area or thing but still know about the thing. They knew it was wrong, but they didn't have an intimacy with what wrong really was. Their awareness and knowledge was limited. For example, I know what a woman's cycle is, but I haven't experienced it, and so my knowledge is limited.Think of it this way to use an old-fashioned and biblical use of "know." A man may know who a woman is, but not "know" her. is this 1984 or something? She clearly knows God doesn't want them to eat the fruit. Isn't that what it says? How can you read it any other way? You seem to be claiming she is saying God said to eat the fruit.Edited by randman, : No reason given.

Think of it this way. Eve knew that if she ate of it that she would die and that was not a good thing, but she did not know what death entailed fully perhaps.On not arguing with the serpent, the serpent wasn't trying to argue with her. He was trying to plant distrust of God in her mind and succeeded. Even with that, Paul writes that Adam was not deceived and so he did wrong out of pure allegience to his wife, loving her more than God.But maybe this is getting too much off-topic.To get back on-topic, the idea that because God has created a world where we have to search for answers is an indication of deception on God's part is a miguided and wrong idea.Edited by randman, : No reason given.

why don't you propose a new topic if you really want me to answer?Admin has already stated this is veering off-topic. Plus, I think my previous comments covered this several times over.