Abortion - Moments of (Mis)Conception

Genesis 1:1.As RAZD has pointed out, there is no such thing as the "start" of life. Life continues from one generation to the next. Every cell is alive, whether it is a separate organism or not. Before we were conceived, we were part of our parents. After we die, something will eat our components and life will go on.Why pick one magical moment when it is no longer okay to interrupt the process? Why "shouldn't" abortion be used as a backup to birth control?The best method of automobile safety is don't run into things. But what's wrong with using seatbelts as a backup?Edited by Ringo, : Spellling.

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As I pointed out, The Process™ began on Day One and continues every day, through today and into the future. It's interrupted all the time by individual deaths. We interrupt it all the time by warfare and by "justice" and by crime.Specifically to this topic, The Process™ is interrupted every time a sperm dies, every time an egg dies, every time implantation fails, every time a woman spontaneously miscarries....To say it is never "ok" to interrupt the process is nonsense. The vast majority of the interruptions you have no complaint about.Try to be just a little bit consistent. If it is "never" okay to interrupt the process, then let's see you speak out against all the interruptions: every lost sperm, every lost egg, every miscarriage, every war, every execution.... Of course they do. The safety issues are identical. Don't evade the issue.

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Everything.There is no "creation of life" inside a mother's womb. The sperm and the egg are already alive long before conception. On the contrary. Every case must be decided individually.Do we go to war with this country? If we do, do I join up? If I might kill civilians, do I pull the trigger anyway?Do I shoot a burglar to protect my family? Does a police officer shoot if he might hit a civilian?Does a surgeon transplant a kidney when there's a risk to the donor?There's no black/white, yes/no, on/off like you suggest. Yet again you ignore the sperm cells that die, the egg cells that die, the implantations that fail, the miscarriages. Why aren't all of those a "loss of life" for you to boo-hoo over? If a woman miscarries on her way to an abortion clinic, what's the difference?

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That's the point: there is no exact moment when "life in general" becomes human life.At one point in time we have a sperm and an egg, and you're perfectly willing to let them die, to throw them away. Then there's another point in time when you say it's suddenly "wrong" to throw some of them away, but it's okay to throw others away.And the only difference between the disposable ones and the "human" ones is that half the disposable DNA came from a rapist.

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Yes. To "justify" means to show that it is right. (Why doesn't a pastor know that?) Nor did you get to hold all the sperm cells, egg cells and other "potential grandchildren" that never developed. The question remains: Why do you pick an arbitrary step along the gestation trail?Why was that fetus a "grandchild" and the cells that joined to make it were not?

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Yes it does. If there is a "proper or sufficient reason", it is right.But right and wrong are not the topic here. I know that's your opinion. I'm asking why do you choose that moment for the soul to enter?What's the difference between a sperm and an egg that are two millimeters apart and a sperm and an egg that sre holding hands? What is the biological basis for your opinion and/or what is the Biblical basis for your opinion?(By the way, that is the topic here - see the OP.)

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As you have been told repeatedly, most of those that do unite will never produce a human being either. They fail to implant or they abort spontaneously for whatever reason.Why do you not consider all of those failures "human"?Once again, why pick one magic moment for humanification? How is that magic moment unique, either biologically or Biblically?

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As I have said before, the beginning of life was in Genesis 1. Since then, there has been a continuum of life. The sperm and egg cells are alive, the failed implants are/were alive....But when does an individual human life begin?"There has to be a beginning" says absolutely nothing about when the beginning has to be. It is becoming fairly clear that there is no basis - either biologically or Biblically for your arbitrary opinion.

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Repeating your unfounded opinions over and over and over is boring.You might as well be saying, "I like ice cream! I like ice cream!"This is a discussion forum, not your personal blog.
A discussion requires some contribution beyond mere opinions.

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What you haven't stated - and what the topic is about - is what makes a fetus a "human life".You clearly have not thought that through - and you clearly don't want to.Nobody can help you understand (and frankly, I don't think your couselling will be effective if you don't understand) as long as your mind is closed as tight as a bear trap.

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