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Author Topic:   Abortion - Moments of (Mis)Conception
Jazzns
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Message 9 of 178 (388918)
03-08-2007 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by AnswersInGenitals
03-08-2007 2:55 PM


Re: All human cells are human.
Isn't there also a case of chimera twins where two fraternal blastocysts merge and produce 1 embryo? Would this person then have 2 souls?
Not related to abortion but more about this issue of a soul, there was an interesting case presented in the Beyond Belief series that Percy introduced the board to awhile back where a scientist described a case of a man who had some kind of split brain disorder. Basically each half of his brain acted independently and could communicate using various means almost like a split personality but physically rather than psychologically. Asking one 'side' if he believed in personal savior and he said yes. Asking the same question to the other 'side' he said no. Now, is half of this person going to heaven?

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 13 of 178 (389363)
03-13-2007 12:37 AM
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03-12-2007 2:17 AM


Chimeras
I admit I only knew the term by watching an episode of 'House' but a casual google search seems to show that the idea is not totally insane.
Chimera - Wikipedia(genetics)
In zoology, a chimera is an animal which has two or more different populations of genetically distinct cells that originated in different zygotes; if the different cells emerged from the same zygote, it is called a mosaicism. It is either acquired through the infusion of allogeneic hematopoietic cells during transplantation or transfusion or it is inherited. In fraternal twins, chimerism occurs by means of blood-vessel anastomoses. Chimeras were named after the mythological creature Chimera.
Chimeras are formed from four parent cells (two fertilized eggs or early embryos are fused together) or three parent cells (a fertilized egg is fused with an unfertilized egg or a fertilized egg is fused with an extra sperm). Each population of cells keeps its own character and the resulting animal is a mosaic of mis-matched parts.
So what is the soul audit on this one then? I guess nem is taking a vacation but maybe another person can take up the cause.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
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Message 153 of 178 (390281)
03-19-2007 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by ICANT
03-19-2007 1:31 PM


Re: Justify
Ringo you put me on a spot with this one but I will answer at the edge of going off topic. I believe that when the sperm and egg fuse (conception) the fetus becomes a living soul.
So when one egg splits into 2, do the pair of twins have 1/2 of a soul?
What about when two fertilized eggs join to make one? Does the resulting person have 2 souls?
Chimeras
Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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