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Author Topic:   Abortion - Moments of (Mis)Conception
LinearAq
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Message 18 of 178 (389564)
03-14-2007 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by riVeRraT
03-14-2007 8:01 AM


Now THIS I don't understand.
riVeRrat writes:
From intercourse to conception, it is a process, and at no time is a woman forced into starting this process (unless she is raped, then I am for abortion).
If you believe that abortion is killing a child then how can you condone killing a child for the actions of a rapist? For the good of the mother?
In what way is the mother better off aborting a child that resulted from rape than aborting a child that resulted from a consentual relationship?
Do you also believe that a "bastard" should be considered lesser person because his parents did not get married?
How does a mixed race child sit in your book? Should she be punished because her parents didn't make the "right" choice?
Edited by LinearAq, : added quote marks so I don't look like a racist

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LinearAq
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Posts: 598
From: Pocomoke City, MD
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Message 33 of 178 (389732)
03-15-2007 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by riVeRraT
03-14-2007 5:16 PM


Clarity
riVeRrat,
I really don't know when it becomes "life" and obviously that is a huge factor in determining if abortion is ok or not.
From this statement you seem to indicate that abortion might be ok. If this is the qualifier though, why is should ending a pregnancy caused by rape be allowed and ending one from consentual sex not be allowed. From the point of view of "protecting life", they should be the same. I can't see where the distinction can be made that, at two weeks along, the fertilized egg of the rape victim can be destroyed but the fertilized egg of the woman who had consentual sex with two guys must be protected from destruction. What fine points in your logic am I missing here?
As far as my comments on your attitudes toward already born children, I was not trying to demean your Christian character. I was just pointing out examples where children have been unreasonably blamed for the circumstances of their conception.

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LinearAq
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From: Pocomoke City, MD
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Message 110 of 178 (390185)
03-19-2007 9:06 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by nator
03-17-2007 8:44 PM


What is "many"
nator writes:
Read the entire page regarding PASD at religioustolerance.org, rat, and then tell me why it is that the website you cited claims that many women suffer from this disorder after their abortions.
Assuming that women consisted of 51 percent of the 200,000,000 (admittedly low figure) person population in 1989, 21 percentof them got abortions (the figure from the study), and .01 percent of those experienced the effects cited in riVeRrat's preferred website, that would be 2142 women. Let's half that to account for some of the population being children...so 1071 women. Some would consider that figure as "many".
It looks more devastating than saying that ".01% of those women choosing abortion experience high levels of depression after admitting their sin to their pastors and Christian friends".
Isn't spin fun?

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LinearAq
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Message 174 of 178 (390646)
03-21-2007 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by riVeRraT
03-21-2007 11:24 AM


Why then the difference
nator writes:
Why is ending life OK in one instance and not OK in another?
riVeRrat writes:
It's never ok nator, as I said earlier in this thread.
If it's not ok then why do you support the killing of the child of the person who was assaulted?
From the point of view of the human-at-the-point-of-conception crowd, isn't that the same as supporting a mother killing her two-year old son because her husband beat her up?
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Topic concerns when life begins.

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