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Author Topic:   OK Conservatives. Got some 'splainin' to do.
Buzsaw
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Message 4 of 35 (397972)
04-28-2007 4:42 PM


Don't forget the liberals who also supported the war. Hindsight leaves both sides of the isle wanting.
Then of course, nobody but nobody knows what the planet would look like had the war not been undertaken. Islam is a catch 2 with no solution no matter what you do. Mohammed essentially said. "conquer the world for Allah" and that's what Islam is about. Did the demise of Saddam hasten or curtail that goal? Nobody knows for sure.
As I understand the Biblical prophecies they will become the predominate military force with UN's blessing allied with the old communist block. It all leads up to the final Armageddon where the nations are prophesied to be drawn into the region for the final bloody biggy before the 2nd advent of messiah/christ Jesus who will rule the world at the temple mount in Jerusalem for a millenium.
It's fulfillment of prophecy. Read it in Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 38, 39, Joel and elsewhere. End time focus is emerging in the Mid East where Israel has been regathered and reborn as the messianic nation exactly as Jesus, and the prophets foretold with Israel the focus and bone of contention. It's all about who will prevail, the prophet of Allah, Mohammed or the prophet/messiah of Jehovah, Jesus at the temple mount for world domination.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 14 of 35 (398240)
04-29-2007 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by kuresu
04-28-2007 4:55 PM


Islam's Modern Warfare
No more full scale wars for Islam. They have thousands of suicide bombers awaiting their turn. That works for them in the age of hi tech where they have no means for full scale war.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 21 of 35 (398477)
04-30-2007 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by nator
04-28-2007 7:48 PM


Bush's One Clinton Cabinet Holdover
schraf writes:
Other than Liebermann, I don't know of another liberal ('ol Joe really isn't one, anyway) who made anything even remotely close to the kinds of ridiculously overconfident statements I showed in the OP.
Most liberals were more, "Well, OK, if Colin Powell says Hussein has WMD's, and the Nigerian Yellowcake thing is real, and if the CIA says there really was an Al Qaida link, then we will support this invasion."
ALL of those things turned out to be false, so the liberal support was based upon false assurances given them by the Bush administration.
Bush got his primary faulty intelligence from none other than a liberal Democrat, the one and only cabinet holdover of the Clinton Admin, George Tenet. Bush should have overhauled the decrepid CIA at the onset of his admin given the messups during the Clinton years including the Bin Laden debacle when he should have been nabbed et al. So Your claim that this invasion was a conservative messup is bogus. Tenet is now making millions on his new book trying to shift the lion's share of the blame on everyone but himself when the lion's share lies on his lap and under his watch.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 28 of 35 (398996)
05-03-2007 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Zhimbo
05-01-2007 3:13 PM


Re: Bush's One Clinton Cabinet Holdover
Zhimbo writes:
Based on his history, I'd choose "Moderate Republican" as the most applicable label. Where does "liberal democrat" enter this picture?
Clinton's saw to it that his whole admin and especially his cabinet was of his liberal bent. He fired all the judges and stacked the judiciary with liberals.
Tenet who said he'd upgrade the CIA systematically pretty much dismantling the already weak agency, doing little in the way of any improvements, running it with his kind of people. He didn't even conserve (as in conservative) what little effectiveness it had before he started his overhaul/liberalization of the agency. He failed to connect the dots on the 9/11 and al queda et al.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 35 (399112)
05-03-2007 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by jar
05-03-2007 12:34 PM


Re: Let's see if Buz can support THIS one. LOL
You're right. Make that all 93 sitting top US attorneys. My carelessness when I get in a hurry gets me in trouble.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 35 (399113)
05-03-2007 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by NosyNed
05-03-2007 1:35 PM


Re: Understanding Buz
OK Ned. I stand moderated. Most of us make mistakes and sometime you'll make your first one.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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