Kuresu writes:
Let's see, the Ottoman Empire got to the gates of Vienna as I recall, during the 1800s--and that was for territorial ambitions, not religious.
The Ottoman Empire last saw Vienna on 9/12/1683, after that it was a slow downhill ride as far as power in Europe was concerned.
See
Battle of Vienna - Wikipedia
Notice the battle that finally drove them from Vienna and essentially became the high-water mark started the previous day on 9/11.
Please excuse this off-topic correction, but in this matter facts will prove to be very important. Unfortunately for our conservative (meaning neocon and evangelical) pundits, the facts are not on their side.
Are they ever?
Wonder how many have later admitted being mistaken?
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