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I don't know much about about genetics but I've heard of breeds of dogs with a defective hip that will go out of place if hit. this dog was a variation of another breed (obviously) but that breed didn't have the problem. I'm sure there are others such as flies with no wings and albino creatures.

Yes, I suppose you're correct but in life I believe things are a bit different when it comes to authorities, there are more levels and I believe there's a perfect supreme authority which can't be understood in an anology to monopoly.

This is responding to 52-53I guess my 7th grade teacher taught me wrong about the founding of our government. I was always taught that most of our founding fathers were devote Christians. I know some of them were though because "in God we trust" is used often in government property. I do believe that State and Church we not mixed to keep the State out of the Church because of what happened in England back in the day. People will abuse their judgmental power by saying it's "under God" that's why I believe they had to say that the nation wasn't at all a theocracy.In the evolutionary tree I don't see a whole new species existing with only negative changes from the original species. If the evolutionary tree didn't only progress then wouldn't we see just as many negative branches as positive? Maybe I'm misinterpreting the tree (probably am) but it seems to me that animals only evolve into something greater. For instance if a society of humans evolved into something equal to apes then they wouldn't become extinct because apes survive. This is why I believe that the phrase that "things only progress" (on a large scale) can be considered a stereotypical evolutionary doctrine. This is something that doesn't make sense (if I'm interpreting it correct) because obviously surviving organisms wouldn't have just had greater and greater, a weaker organism could survive.Yes, I believe in extinction but I believe in a catastrophe accounting for most of the extinction.I think that the gene pool is getting worse very slowly. As mutations occur from radiation then the genes get passed on and mixed. When two people have a child, that child can get the mutations of both parents.Sure good mutations tend to survive better, but negative mutations do not always get eliminated. So far in humans more recorded history I've only seen negative mutations survive. For instance genetic tumors are becoming more abundant because every time a family with this condition has more than 2 kids the condition is being spread. Show me something in humans recorded history that promotes your idea of only good characteristics surviving (besides the geologic column because it's hypothetical).As for the monopoly thing read message 47.You're misinterpreting scripture by saying Adam and Eve now know when God does good and evil. They ate the fruit and realized what was evil but they were deceived by Satan. Satan has been deceiving ever since he convinced them to eat the fruit. Sure humans now are able of being aware what's good and evil but it doesn't mean they're perfect in judgment and able to judge God. They can certainly interpret something as God doing something bad, but it's just a work of Satan. I cannot prove to you that it's a work of Satan, but you can't prove to me that something bad happening is a mistake God made. God allowed for free will therefore Satan's rebellion was not God's mistake.We're in charge of our will. The way we made society dictate us was our will. This doesn't mean God isn't in charge though. God's focus isn't "make sure everyone is put in a jail for stealing". His focus isn't "punish everyone after they've sinned", it's "get them to ask for forgiveness so the sin isn't there". He doesn't arrest people because there are better ways of bringing someone to forgiveness, it's just arresting someone is the best thing we could think of for our society.Being nice to someone so they'll be nice to you isn't a very stable though. You need more motive than that to have a stable society.You said- "But those rules were created by humans. They are carried out by humans. They are maintained by humans. They are adapted by humans."
Before I respond: what rules are referring to?Ok, so your opinion on winning is as much joy for yourself. By serving yourself you're not helping leave the world a nice place as you said you wanted to earlier. If younger people take example of you then they'll be living in the same world as your children and the people who took example of you will subtly take away from them as much as they can as long as they aren't caught. Are you thinking about how you leave the world when you're serving yourself?God does not give up but He does stop taking initiative to tell you something is wrong if you refuse to learn. God hasn't given up; He's just leaving it up to you more to come to Him because He already gave you several chances.

After I scanned the articles here's the reply to #33In the begining of your message what do you mean by- "It talks about insects having four legs as well, but lets see where this goes." I'm assuming you're refering to the Bible talking about 4 legged insects. I don't think I've ever read a verse saying there were 4 legged insects. Anyways when the Bible was written there were no classifications like "insects don't have four legs".In the Bible it doesn't say all the rain came from the sky. It says it came from the "fountains of the deep" and the sky. Therefore, whatever amount that a canopy could hold came down and the ground water made the difference. Also most creationists believe that Mt. Everest was formed sometime after the flood and that Mt.Ararat might have risen after the flood. This is based on some tectonics theories. I'm not a scientist by I believe that a canopy could've existed. Not all the water in the flood had to have come from a canopy.

Even if cancer isn't becoming more abundant, which I'm still pretty sure it is, it still shows that negative changes aren't always eliminated.No the serpent isn't in Genesis 1 or 2. No the serpent did not tell the truth. The serpent, Satan, said Eve would become just like God and she wouldn't die. Are humans just like God? If we look at your opinion of God the answer is no, if we look at my opinion of God the answer is still no. Do humans die? Yes. Therefore Satan lied.Yes being nice to someone so they'll be nice to you works for a little while. When a nation is truly under God then they thrive. Look at Israel, in their past they fell away from God and were exiled. When they came back to God they were stabilized and independent. When they’re under God they have more reasons to be nice to each other.God wants us to have faith without sight. He gave us His creation to observe and decide whether it is a massive collection of coincidences with no origin, or a creation. It's simple and it's up to you to believe without sight of Him. I didn't have to see a God and I believe in a God. I came to God through His creation.

God does want us to use our logic He gave us to come to Him. It's just that in the final step of coming to Him those things don't matter. He doesn't appear to us because it wouldn't require any faith to believe Him after that. It is a more devote faith when you believe without seeing. We do use reasoning to come to Him but not the reasoning and laws we came up with, like science, because God is not believed through by science, He is believed through by faith.If you don't believe that you have a soul and don't care where you go after to die then there is no reason to believe unless you come to the realization that someone had to make this universe.

As I have said, if you're only faith is sight you cannot and will not be assured of anything invisible. You probably believe in radiation because you see what it does. Well I believe God because I see what He does. When I pray He answers. You can't see my prayer and you can't see God do something, but I know I prayed and it would certainly be a strange coincidence every time I prayed I got an answer to it.

I got saved because God offered me salvation. I am thanking Him for giving me salvation and I do that by being nice to people. I didn't start to serve Him in hope to get salvation, I couldn't do anything to deserve that, but rather I accepted His free gift of salvation and now He provides for me and I serve Him in thanks. Also the more I admit my dependence and service to Him the more He provides.Missionaries were martyred for a reason. It is a testimony that they don't fear death because they know where they're going. Most missionaries wouldn't have died if they denounced God. I think that being martyred is God providing a chance for the person to show their faith in Him.

It might be a bit for me to respond to all these, especially #67. I dont have time to respond to 70 right now but I'll tell you now the Bible isn't as literal as you are interpretting it. Try reading a commentary Bible with a more modern translation from the Greek.

The goal of most religeons isn't a financial and economic utopia therefore your opinion may be that it isn't sucessful if you don't know their goals.

I agree that things become better adapted through breeding and natural selection but things are becoming worse through radiation, which would be less notcible in bacteria. So even though things adapt through breeding the defects from radiation would still be passed down by genes and eventually multiplied.

I guess I have always been taught wrong that the US was based on God. As for the geological column I'll have to do some research because I've been told several opinions from credible people.I'll define what I mean by greater when I say the evolutionary tree only shows animals getting greater. A greater characteristic would be something that benefits the organism according to its environment. I would say it seems a group of humans would survive and multiply more than a group of apes would no matter where they are, this would makes humans greater (to my terminology). But both organisms would survive in certain circumstances, making it so both of us outrun the bear.Yes we've thrived and multiplied and it's pretty good. But consider in the long run how things might turn out. When you see siblings or cousins marry, negative things can happen to the genes of their child. The further away the relation the less of the effect though. Since we're all slightly related the effect does happen every generation (just to clarify "the effect" I'm referring to is mutations in the family being unhealthily dominant when insect occurs, such as cancer). This is what I mean by the gene pool very minutely being filled with mutations and such. The fact that there are 6 billion people on earth doesn't go against what I'm saying. At the rate things are going I'm sure there will be many more a billion before things get real unhealthy.Everybody being nice to each other is very stable but being nice only when there's a positive response isn't (yes I am refining my previous statement). Let’s say you're on your death bed eating lunch with a group of people and someone turns his back and you take his sandwich (not saying you would do this). He never knows or suspects that it's you. He loses and you win, even in the long run if there's no after life. The next day you die before that cycle of what goes around comes around gets you. You knew you were dying and you weren't punished by man, what's to stop you from doing it? Let's say you trusted the others not to tell also. What good is it doing you if you leave the place better by not stealing the man's sandwich; you're gone from earth before you ever were accounted for it. I think it's safe to say we don't understand each other very well on this issue but maybe we will soon.I agree that man can make a system that works well with morals, that most the laws are explainable, under logic, in this nation, for example, but I don't think decency is explainable. Walking around naked even saves you money even but it's not ethical under God. If the US did it so Christians wouldn't be offended they would have passed many more a rule, and since you say the US isn't based under God, then explain what made man make this rule?!-Notice for everyone who is participating in the debates on this page related to Genesis 3: I will make a full, complete response with interpretations from the Bible soon so ask any more questions you want me to reply to related to this.

I see your argument with the 4-legged insects but its just an older English term. More recent translations say-"However, there are some exceptions that you may eat. These include insects that jump with there hind legs: locusts of all varieties, crickets, bald locusts, and grasshoppers. All these may be eaten."-New Living Translation (translated from the original language). You can't read the King James that literal because the terminology wasn't as literal back then. Expect a similar response for the Genesis 3 issue.
I see your argument with the 4-legged insects but it’s just an older English term. More recent translations say-"However, there are some exceptions that you may eat. These include insects that jump with there hind legs: locusts of all varieties, crickets, bald locusts, and grasshoppers. All these may be eaten."-New Living Translation (translated from the original language). You can't read the King James Translation that literal because the terminology wasn't translated that literal back in the day. Expect a similar response for the Genesis 3 issue.As for the canopy hold on a bit. I found an article a while ago but I need to find it again.As for the canopy hold on a bit. I found an article a bit ago but I need to find it again.

Walking around naked makes you cold but that's good when it's warm out. You can make yourself colder by jumping in a freezer or many other things but that's not illegal. The founders left some discernment for us. Whether it’s too cold to go outside or just right is a logical decision. I’m sure that isn’t the reason they made it illegal.I think there's a gap that isn't being breached with the whole helping the next man down the line issue. I don't understand quite everything you say and vice versa.

Yes I do believe in evolution in the "kind" as the Bible calls it. My not so scientific definition of "kind" is that any two animals in a "kind" can breed or that a "kind" has a common ancestor (which obviously can't be traced). I have yet to see present evidence of an entirely different species emerging.I don't have much resource to professional literature but for example when we saw a high amount of radiation in Hiroshima cancer rates went up (correct me if I'm wrong). I do believe that sun radiation also causes forms of cancer. If something becomes hereditary then the victim's offspring would have it too. Eventually through the years those offspring will intermarry and you've got a larger amount of people with the defect and since it's possible to get a hereditary defect (correct me if I'm wrong), or and STD from external forces they're multiplying. Also these things do not prohibit people from having several children before it gets to them so having a defect wouldn't stop them from being common, or more common, in the populous. Sure they may not survive as well but they can multiply before they die. For instance my dad could've died from a hereditary tumor (thankfully he didn't) but he still had 4 kids who could have it and pass it on. Now there are 7 people who could have it just from him, not to mention my ancestors who might've had it.