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God's Child
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Message 101 of 114 (39988)
05-13-2003 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by God's Child
05-13-2003 6:34 PM


Re: Sin
Well I guess others have pretty much proven the results of entropy. Thanks by the way. Now that everyone hopefully believes in entropy this explains how the universe could have been a perfect system before "sin", which is what brought this topic up. Even something that works perfect can have the free will to be messed up as we see it now.
As for the Genesis 3 issue I'll probably have a thorough response tomorrow.
Also here's something about the canopy The Collapse of the Canopy Model | Answers in Genesis
If you've got questions don't ask me because I probably won't know. I'm just giving it to you for your curiosity; I don't know enough about it to defend it.

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God's Child
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Message 104 of 114 (39992)
05-13-2003 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by crashfrog
05-13-2003 7:04 PM


Re: Sin
I guess I'm mistaken then. What I meant by entropy is actually "things tend to get worse" and from my Biblical standpoint it is a curse as a result of sin ,which I will cover in my response to the Genesis 3 issue. Also when I said "entropy" it could mean more specifically results from radiation, wrong judgement, off balances, and such.

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God's Child
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Message 105 of 114 (39994)
05-13-2003 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by nator
05-13-2003 9:58 AM


Re: Sin
Forgot to respond to this one. I guess I got you confused with Rrhain who said his goals were a "mad dash for money" so his utopia would be financially economically perfect.

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God's Child
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Message 107 of 114 (39996)
05-13-2003 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by crashfrog
05-13-2003 6:56 PM


Re: Sin
As I recall I used the word "or" not "and" in my sentence dealing with kinds. In other words if a pair can mate, then they're a kind, OR if they have the same ancestor they're a kind. So an animal might not be able to make because of the extreme variations they have reached but they could be the same Biblical kind if there’s a common ancestor.
However, what I don't recall is saying that somatic cells do have an effect on offspring. Only defects in cells that do have an effect on offspring get passed on, you know that. It doesn't matter if a hereditary defect is added from external forces to humanity as a whole. Every time something is added it's slowly mixed into the gene pool, like a dye in water except it doesn't get any less potent as it spreads.

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Message 108 of 114 (39999)
05-13-2003 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by crashfrog
05-13-2003 7:25 PM


Re: Sin
Your statement about things getting better is relevant to technology, not genetics, which is what we were talking about. People live longer because medecine is better understood, not because our genes are "getting better". Happier? I guess it's all an opinion but I've always thought suicide rates have increased in the past 500 or so years (correct me if I'm wrong). Technology is bound to increase but technology certainly isn't directly related to the gene pool.

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