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Message 37 of 145 (408294)
07-01-2007 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Hyroglyphx
07-01-2007 3:03 PM


Re: Military intelligence: Often an oxymron
Speaking of oxymorons....
The freedom of speech is paramount and should be protected at all cost. However, if yellow journalism is detected, there should be steep penalties for it.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 42 of 145 (408437)
07-02-2007 5:11 PM
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07-02-2007 8:51 AM


Re: Military intelligence: Often an oxymron
And it never ceases to amaze me how many people try to justify all kinds of restrictions on speech by trotting out the old "fire in a crowded moviehouse" line.
Ever heard the phrase "clear and present danger?" That's the test used to determine if potentially dangerous speech can be regulated consistent with the Constitution. The government can regulate speech that creates a "clear and present danger" of lawlessness or actions that the government has a right to regulate. Shouting fire in a crowded moviehouse can cause panic, resulting in injuries to persons or property. The fact that such a result is likely is clear. And, it is a present, or immediate, danger.
Pray tell, if you can, what clear and present danger is found in "yellow journalism?"

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 52 of 145 (409019)
07-06-2007 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Hyroglyphx
07-06-2007 12:22 PM


Re: Military intelligence: Often an oxymron
What danger is there in telling the American people that Iraq is a threat to national security as an excuse to save the value of the American dollar or to secure our oil status?
Well, I can't see any threat of immediately lawlessness from making such a report. If you do, you'll have to explain it to me. Thus, it has absolutely nothing to do with the doctrine of "clear and present danger."
Moreover, that kind of reporting isn't what most of the media is doing right now, with the possible exception of mindless neocon mouthpieces like Fox News and its ilk. It certainly isn't the kind of reporting that is the topic of this thread.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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