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biglfty
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Message 58 of 126 (41271)
05-25-2003 9:38 AM


i want to believe what is right. if i am wrong, and i discover without a shadow of a doubt that i am, then ok, i'll believe something else. but that wont happen. plus there are more evolutionists who switch to creation after a lot of studying then the other way around.

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biglfty
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Message 61 of 126 (41319)
05-25-2003 9:53 PM


ok, i'm not gonna fight that argument, i dont have the numbers on it to prove it, and i dont care enough to try to find them(they would most likely be very hard to find) but, i've heard of a lot more "evos" changing there views than creationists. if you want to disagree with me there, then go for it. ok, so you probably cant prove anything 100% but basically i still havent seen any good hard evidence for evolution, theres to many holes in theory. later.

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biglfty
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Message 63 of 126 (41342)
05-26-2003 10:40 AM


well, i dont doubt that some form of evolution takes place.(should have mentioned the earlier) for example, i'm not sure i can say that god created as many breeds of dogs as we have today. the problem is, i dont understand one organism to a completely different one. for example, apes-human. apes and human both have some similar characteristics. however i dont understand how we could have evolved from them. one question i have is, if we evolved from apes, where are all the "apemen"? if we truly evolved from apes 1 of 2 things would have happened.1)there would be no more apes cuz they all would have evolved to humans(there are still apes) or 2)there would everything in between apes and humans. but somewhere the evolution process obviously stopped becuase we still have apes, and we still have humans, but nothing in between. that would be like, if with people we had fully devoloped people and babies. and none aged say, 5-20. it just doesnt make sense.

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biglfty
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Message 69 of 126 (41448)
05-27-2003 10:28 AM


"Sometimes there isn't anything in between. At low levels, speciation happens in jumps."
interesting, this varies from nearly every evolutionist i've heard, but ok, i'll ask a question. if we just jumped from apes to humans, then what happened at that time? did regular apes, just breed regular humans?

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biglfty
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Message 74 of 126 (41524)
05-27-2003 8:31 PM


ok, so there was some evolutionary process then. what we might refer to as ape-men?(farther along than apes, but not as far along as we are)

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biglfty
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Message 76 of 126 (41547)
05-28-2003 12:32 AM


ok, was there something in the process between the apes today and the people today. call it what you will, what you call something doesnt change what it is.

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biglfty
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Message 83 of 126 (41590)
05-28-2003 9:42 AM


"The thing is, the words one uses to refer to things often colors their perceptions. So sometimes it's really important to be agreeing on the usage in order to have a constructive discussion."
ok, well, that still doesnt answer the question i asked you. was there something between apes and men? some for form that was more along than the apes but not as far along as what we would call humans today.

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biglfty
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Message 92 of 126 (41647)
05-28-2003 6:24 PM


Is there some reason you are ignoring my posts and restating the same error you made initially?
my apologies, i actually wanted crashfrog to answer becuase is was his argument that wasnt making sense.
[This message has been edited by biglfty, 05-28-2003]

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