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Author Topic:   The Definition for the Theory of Evolution
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 105 of 216 (410375)
07-14-2007 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Dr Adequate
07-13-2007 5:26 PM


Re: More drift.
"Scholarship" does not "define ToE" as "natural selection". This is why you cannot quote a single scholar offering that as a definition.
You are unread and completely ignorant.
(Incidentally, I notice that the definition you attribute to "scholarship" is quite different from the one you attribute to Phillip Johnson. Is this, in your opinion, because he is a liar, or simply because he is not a "scholar"?)
Johnson is a recognized scholar.
Evolution is a change in allele frequencies. If you think you can give me an example of evolution without allele frequencies changing, let us know.
A change in gene frequencies is the geneticist definition of evolution. It is not the only valid definition of evolution.
Evolution is observed as well as inferred, surely you know that?
Evolution is inferred; it cannot be observed in real time because it is too slow. What happens in the molecular universe is not falsifiable as one must take the word of the scientist on it, whether an Evolutionist or Creationist.
Evolution is not observable. This makes it much like Creationism: we do not get to see exactly when God creates by special creation. Like evolution, special creation is inferred after the fact.
Now that I know you are unread and ignorant I will not be reading anymore of your messages.
Ray

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 151 of 216 (414021)
08-02-2007 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Percy
08-01-2007 4:02 PM


Natural Selection is the only answer
RAZD is seeking a consensus on the definition of the modern theory of evolution.
And this is the only thing that this topic is about (as you knew).
The synthetic theory of evolution, also known as the modern synthesis, arose around the 1920's when the population geneticists demonstrated that Darwin's formulation of evolution as natural selection upon a varied population with imperfect reproduction was precisely what emerged from their genetic models. This brought together the then separate theories of genetics and evolution into a single theory now called the modern synthesis.
Except for your dating (1920s; when in fact according to Mayr it occurred in the 1930s and 40s) Percy has stated a historical and scientific fact.
The biological synthesis has decided that natural selection is the main mechanism causing evolution. All other mechanisms are auxilliary. I had plainly stated this fact up-thread in response to RAZDs error laden posts listing NS as merely one causal factor.
It is not a matter of opinion: The Theory of how Evolution happens is by natural selection - period. Thousands of books in the 20th century have been written supporting this claim.
EDIT: Darwin titled his book: "On The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection."
That is the only correct definition of said phrase. I will not embarrass RAZD by posting his messages that list NS as just another concept on a list thereby giving the impression that NS is ordinary and equal to the other things on his list - SHEESH!
Ray
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : No reason given.

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