AL (Artificial Life) and the people who love it

Really, this whole reply has pointed out the incredibly obvious, way to say nothing.

I am sorry, but that makes no sense to me. They have to be linked. I just said that I didn't. Science helps define my faith.

Which came from where?I'll ask you now, does anything happen on its own?

Rrhain has ranted on and on about how evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life, and nothing to do with cosmology.But in the very article from the OP, we find this quote. Why would he be concerned about a place in the universe, or getting answer about cosmology from biology?Not only that: So if they aren't designing it, then they aren't creating it.It's great that we know all this stuff, and it has practical uses in helping people. But it really doesn't answer the bigger questions.There is no "see I told you."So really this statement:
"Life-from-scratch is going to pose an ... interesting ... dilemma for creos. "Is not a problem. There is no dilemma. The word scratch is over rated in that statement. They haven't even designed anything.That's all I wanted to say, until Rrhain turned it into his usual barrage of replies. I'm out.

Yes, that is why I like science. But due to the way it is, I will not always choose to live by it. I like to blend both, and learn as I go. The NIV, you've said it yourself.But if that's not what you meant, I wouldn't have a problem with that either. But being that it is so old, and there is no way to really prove that it is wrong, it might be better off left the way it is, and people need to take it for what it is worth, and only focus on what is relative today, like loving others.

Yes I have. Other religions are fine with me, but not for me. I have been led to this one (whatever that is).

Why would you think that, when I asked you earlier, if you thought that God could have create life that evolves? You do not know what my faith is, so stop pretending.I will share that, at one point about 4 years ago, I felt the presence of God for the first time. I was by myself. I felt as though He told me that He created all "this" (the world) for us, and that He created us also. He did not tell me how He did it, and I guess that is not important for my faith.If God comes tomorrow, and tells me, we did not evolve, then I would have a major problem.God does specific things in my life, that help me grow, and it also helps other people as well, and none of it interferes with science, or vise versa. As matter of fact, I am a strong component in telling people in my church, not to use science to explain God, and I am not liked for it.

According to his way of thinking, every time we procreate, we create life. God has nothing to do with it, because biology and cosmology are not the same.

No, this is not a good argument. Ringo acts as if we applied some kind of magic to make life happen. Life is in the starting elements, if we can just take those elements through them in a dish, and call it creating life. Then the logical people will say I am moving goalposts, but science really doesn't have any goalposts, why should I?I've never sat here and said that the way Genesis says we were created was the way it went down, so I really don't have any goalposts, as far as that goes. Besides, nothing is ever proven, and until we have a time machine, or meet God, we will never know exactly how it went down. We could have come from aliens for all we know.

If you back up a few steps and take a look at the bigger picture, there really is no difference. What's the difference between RNA/DNA assembling life, and us? It's all natural, since that's how it started.

Since nothing is ever proven, how do I know those corrections, are correct? You've pointed them out yourself, need I go back in time and post it? I have no way of debating if that is true or not. You are only basing that on current knowledge. Are you saying it is proven that it never happened? If you only focus on what is wrong with it, you'll never understand what is right about it.

Yes it is all made up of the same stuff, but it isn't linked.....ok No, what I said was science helps define my faith, because science studies truth, and my faith deals with truth. I think I have been saying this for quite some time, and that is, I neither reject it, or accept it.

I think you are confusing a lot of ideas all in one thought there.The bible says what it ways about it, and it has no bearing on my faith. We all came from something, and how that happened is not all that important to me. The bible says God spoke the universe into existence, just what that means is even irrelevant.I do feel God has told me that He has created everything, but not exactly how. If we can take what already is, and make life from it, it doesn't pose a problem as far as me being a creationist. Creationist meaning, I believe we were created, but do not accept the creationist ideas, or theories.I don't know how you can attempt to define the word life in the article provided in the OP, because it hasn't even happened yet. We are all debating, what hasn't even taken place. They only think it will happen. So when it happens, and we can compare real life, to artificial life, then we can define it. It id goes as smooth as cloning a sheep, there will be some discrepancies.

I agree with you. rRhain acts if as though we can see everything down to the smallest level of existence, and be able to determine if they are indeed the same.Let's clone rRhain, and then ask him if his clone is EXACTLY the same thing.

Based on my ignorance of just what they did, and how it works, combined with my ignorance on just how God did things. I would say nothing for me.It's all those ID'rs and Creationists that are going to have to do side steps, and start explaining the bible again.Not only that, all this hasn't really happened yet, so it all remains to be seen.