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Karl
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Message 67 of 90 (40041)
05-14-2003 4:00 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Mike Holland
05-13-2003 7:40 PM


Tangent.....
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Consciousness. I cannot concieve how a neuron could be conscious. I also cannot see how a group of neurons could have the unity of my experience of consciousness. Also, where does the colour red exist when I look at a red object? Some sort of field theory of consciousness required?
So maybe there are still areas where you can stick in your metaphysics, but please read up on the science first.
A lot of Christians do, but personally it sounds like a God of the gaps to me. The mechanism may be unknown, but that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain seems to me to be the obvious conclusion from the effects physical and chemical actions on the brain can have on it.
Personally, given that the Christian hope is in resurrection (with a new body and therefore new brain), not mere survival of death, I would have expected Christians to be perfectly happy with a physical source of consciousness, soul etc.
[This message has been edited by Karl, 05-14-2003]

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Karl
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Message 77 of 90 (41676)
05-29-2003 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Philip
05-29-2003 4:25 AM


Re: Light and Time
Can anyone spell "God of the Gaps"?

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Karl
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Message 82 of 90 (41993)
06-03-2003 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Philip
06-01-2003 2:11 AM


Re: Light and Time
We may have been round it before, but clearly you've not taken any notice of what I've said.
The essence of the GotG fallacy is to point to a gap in scientific knowledge and say "scientists can't explain that because God did it supernaturally".
There are no gaps which I ascribe to the supernatural working of God. Clear? I do not invoke "goddidit" to explain any of the current gaps in scientific knowledge. Is that clear?
There is a difference between "I don't know" and "Goddidit". Sure Goddidit - but God did all of it. God is in the gaps, but in the same way as He's in the understood phenomena.

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