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Topic: How can anyone say that this universe was designed for Humanity?
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stevo3890
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Message 18 of 60 (42634)
06-11-2003 9:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Mr. Davies
12-12-2002 8:05 AM
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All the laws that govern the universe were formed at random and with all the variables it is highly unlikely that this universe and chemistry for that matter would have formed.
Scientific American in their May issue had a chart of all the possible universes and universes with Atoms being stable or even existing was pretty small. That is how people can say the universe was fine tuned.
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stevo3890
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Message 22 of 60 (42641)
06-11-2003 11:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 19 by crashfrog
06-11-2003 10:03 PM
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actually we can know some as we have string theory.
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stevo3890
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Message 25 of 60 (42721)
06-12-2003 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 24 by crashfrog
06-12-2003 3:14 PM
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Universe was seemingly formed at random. According to string theory there are 10 space dimensions. 3 dimensions expanded when they met with their anti string partners so we have 3 dimensions. technically more dimensions could expand but the probabilty of this happening is greatly reduced as the remaining string antistring pairs has all of space to hide from each other so they probably won't meet. but that is one aspect of this theory that says "what universes can and can't exist".
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stevo3890
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Message 26 of 60 (42722)
06-12-2003 4:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by NosyNed
06-12-2003 1:27 AM
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Re: String theory
Yes it is a work in progress yet technically all of science is too, However we still can receive benefits of knowledge from these works in progress.
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stevo3890
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Message 29 of 60 (42730)
06-12-2003 4:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 28 by zephyr
06-12-2003 4:12 PM
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Re: String theory
what side of the table
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stevo3890
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Message 31 of 60 (42733)
06-12-2003 4:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by crashfrog
06-12-2003 4:07 PM
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the only restraint there seems to be is that there is no restriant. Q M places no limits on the Multiverse as well, as everything in that theory is random.
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stevo3890
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Message 32 of 60 (42735)
06-12-2003 4:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by NosyNed
06-12-2003 4:26 PM
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im no scientist but the book i have read on it (brian Greene's the elegant universe refers to them.
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stevo3890
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Message 34 of 60 (42740)
06-12-2003 4:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 33 by zephyr
06-12-2003 4:29 PM
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Re: String theory
I believe in God but i am no idiot. as for the people who are idiots and believe in God there are just morons if they do that.
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stevo3890
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Message 37 of 60 (42753)
06-12-2003 5:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 36 by crashfrog
06-12-2003 4:41 PM
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crashfrog,
in your opinion what came first the Universe or the laws which govern them
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stevo3890
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Message 46 of 60 (42790)
06-12-2003 7:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 44 by NosyNed
06-12-2003 7:44 PM
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Re: initial conditions
The point here is that people can believe that the universe was designed because it is highly unlikely that a universe whose laws and aspects "picked" at random would produce a universe where everything we know of (chemistry, 3 spatial dimensions, ect) would exist. As of today it is not a far fetched idea.
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stevo3890
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Message 50 of 60 (42799)
06-12-2003 8:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 49 by NosyNed
06-12-2003 8:01 PM
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Re: initial conditions
No it is not as all modern science point to this universe being selected, if you will, at random
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