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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
"The majority of people do not believe in the Christian God, or that the Bible is "true" or the word of God."
How do you know this? Also how does a christian god differ from the one god professed by many religions?
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3959 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
ou say they aren't native arabic speakers because.... they don't live in arab regions? all the muslims i know speak arabic as well because they learned it (either as children or adults) in order to be able to read the qu'ran and sunna. it may not be their first language, but it certainly is one they speak.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3322 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Heinrik writes:
Um, because most people in the world are not christians?
How do you know this? Also how does a christian god differ from the one god professed by many religions?
In other words, you're really a Buddhist at heart, right? There's a joke about this actually. It goes like this. I believe in freedom of religion. I believe that everyone should be able to worship any god he wishes as long as he accepts Jesus Christ as his savior. Your comment is just another way of saying the same thing. Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2508 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
brenna writes: all the muslims i know speak arabic as well because they learned it (either as children or adults) in order to be able to read the qu'ran and sunna. it may not be their first language, but it certainly is one they speak. But, if the Muslims you know were typical of the hundreds of millions on the Indian subcontinent, about half of them would never have read anything in any language. Also, a lot of my parents' generation here "learned" Latin in school, but few ever could be described as understanding it. Sorry about the off-topic stuff, Amen.
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
No I'm not a buddist at heart. I went to one meeting and as soon as they said to stand when the monk entered the room and gave us a prayer to say in his honour I was ready to leave. If anyone wants reverence from me they are in for a long wait. I had to laugh.
I don't believe in organised religion at all in any shape or form, so I don't know to what you are referring with freedom as long as you accept jesus as your saviour. Huh? However, the point I was making was we cannot know how many believe in god, but statistics of the sale of the bible show it plays an important\huge global role. In that there 'may' be a majority rule, it doesn't always make it true. This applies in any situation. I wonder if the bible was not believed to be inspired by god and taken as a literary novel, would it be a best seller?
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2508 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Heinrik writes: How do you know this? How do I know that the majority of people in the world aren't Christians? Can't we just take their word for it?
Also how does a christian god differ from the one god professed by many religions? I think it's something to do with coming to earth himself, as his son, to save us around 2000 years ago, plus numerous other details.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
I wonder if the bible was not believed to be inspired by god and taken as a literary novel, would it be a best seller? Bible: 4-6 billion soldShakespeare: 4 billion sold Does that answer your question?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
So why was it so important to be translated, copied, and is found in every book store, library, etc? If it's not important, why go through all the trouble to have it in every country? Importance is a subjective opinion. Some people feel that it is important. Some of these people may feel that it is important based on faulty reasoning or on information that is not true. Some people feel that the Bible is not important. Some of these people may feel that it is not important based on faulty reasoning or on information that is not true. Computers have cut-and-paste functions. So does right-wing historical memory. -- Rick Perlstein
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Taz Member (Idle past 3322 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Heinrik writes:
You honestly believe the majority of the world are christian? However, the point I was making was we cannot know how many believe in god, but statistics of the sale of the bible show it plays an important\huge global role. In that there 'may' be a majority rule, it doesn't always make it true. This applies in any situation.
Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2508 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined: |
Heinrik writes: I wonder if the bible was not believed to be inspired by god and taken as a literary novel, would it be a best seller? In many cultures during most epochs, it wouldn't have got past the censors. Too much sex, and far too much violence.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2672 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
How do you know this? Homepage - adherents
Christianity: 2 billion -- Roman Catholicism: 1.1 billion Protestantism: 360 million Eastern Orthodoxy: 220 million Anglican: 84 million Other: 280 million Islam: 1.3 billion --Sunnism: 940 million Shiism: 120 million Hinduism 900 million Secular / Nonreligious / Agnostic / Atheist: 850 million Buddhism: 360 million Chinese traditional religion: 225 million Primal indigenous: 150 million African Traditional and Diasporic: 95 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 14 million Judaism: 14 million Bahá'í Faith: 6 million Jainism: 5 million Shinto: 4 million Cao Dai: 3 million Tenrikyo 2.4 million Neopaganism: 1 million Unitarian Universalism: 800,000 Rastafarianism: 700,000 Scientology: 600,000 Zoroastrianism: 150,000 Capiche?
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Lots of drug dealers give away free samples to get you hooked before they start making you pay.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Bible: 4-6 billion sold Shakespeare: 4 billion sold Does that answer your question?
I wonder if the bible was not believed to be inspired by god and taken as a literary novel, would it be a best seller?
Bible: 4-6 billion soldShakespeare: 4 billion sold Does that answer your question? Out of curiosity, was the figure for Shakespeare just the English version, or also the translations into other languages? No, I don't mean "in the original Klingon", but I was taught once that, thanks to Lessing's 18th century translation of Shakespeare into German, there are more productions of Shakespeare plays in Germany than in the English speaking world. {When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy. ("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984) And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,Or break the very atoms down to see how they are made, Or study cells, or living things, seek truth with open hand. The profoundest act of worship is to try to understand. Deep in flower and in flesh, in star and soil and seed, The truth has left its living word for anyone to read. So turn and look where best you think the story is unfurled. Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world. (filk song "Word of God" by Dr. Catherine Faber, No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.echoschildren.org/CDlyrics/WORDGOD.HTML)
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pelican Member (Idle past 5016 days) Posts: 781 From: australia Joined: |
"Bible: 4-6 billion sold
Shakespeare: 4 billion sold Does that answer your question?" No. They are not comparable. Shakespeare did not claim to be inspired by god and his works are judged on literary merit not if they are true or not.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
So in other words, Shakespeare's stats are more impressive because he had to rely on literary merit alone, without the con job or threat of eternal damnation.
Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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