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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 15 of 26 (439000)
12-07-2007 1:39 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Buzsaw
12-06-2007 7:38 PM


Religious Test for Public Employees
Buzsaw writes:
The most blessed & free nation on the planet's founders as well as the majority of it's citizens have bought into that snake oil for the last two centuries and enjoyed the blessings of the maker/designer for doing so and acknowledging him for his wonderful work.
Btw, did you read about the FYI which may have been a factor in the resignation? Sometimes attitude matters.
And which attitude should the head of science education in Texas have? Do they have to pass a religious test, such as support for YECism or ID, in direct violation of, and hypocritically against, science?
Which specific puny religious cult are we required to support to please your Taliban sensibilities in order to be a public employee in this state? Why should a minority of people, ignorant of both science and the Bible be allowed to micromanage education?
Evidently, you don't seem to understand that the US Constitution specifically forbids a religious test for officeholders. Given the obvious intent of such founders, why and how should such a religious test apply to state employees?
Sorry Buz, your disrespect for the ideals that created this nation, and your red-hot desire to replace the rule of law under the Constitution and Bill of Rights in regard to freedom of religion don't play as well as you may think around these parts.
Even if the forces that seek to destroy science education in this state temporarily succeed, they will soon find the corporations leaving in droves to places where they can rely upon a properly educated workforce, just as happened in Kansas.
Then the religious fanatics and their demagogic leadership will come to a reckoning, face to face with their one true god -- money.
Edited by anglagard, : change title of post
Edited by anglagard, : replace term creationism with YECism
Edited by anglagard, : puny religious cult

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 26 of 26 (439545)
12-09-2007 12:38 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
12-07-2007 10:04 AM


Re: Religious Test for Public Employees
Buzsaw writes:
The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc. Now even the Ten Commandments which are inscripted in the capitol are forbidden in many public buildings. How does your religious test weigh in here?
Here are the pertinent parts of both the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America, aka the supreme law of the land direct from the National Archives website.
From Article VI:
quote:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
The First Amendment to the Constitution:
quote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
So, how is my original question answered?
If no religious test "shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States," why should a religious test be applied to federal or even state government employees?
I think the intent of the founders is obvious.
You do realize, of course, these laws protect your freedom of religion, not your 'freedom' to impose your minority fundamentalist religion on others by force.
Edited by anglagard, : take out rant

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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