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NosyNed
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Message 3 of 57 (44571)
06-28-2003 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Benn
06-28-2003 7:45 PM


While final proof of some things isn't what can be achieved it is possible to completly disprove some things.
The idea of a 6,000 year old earth, of a global flood and of creation of all forms of life in one short period have all been falsified. There are too many things which would have to be there and arne't for these things to be true. There are too many things which are there which wouldn't be for these things to be true.
So while one side doesn't have finally proof of truth in a form like a mathematical theorem has the other side has ideas which are demonstratable not true.

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NosyNed
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Message 30 of 57 (71508)
12-08-2003 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by ballewski
12-08-2003 12:07 AM


Something from "nothing"
it is a fact that somthing just dosent appear out of no were and that is what i am saying
Please reconcile this "fact" with virtual particles. You do know what they are don't you? While you're at it you can explain Hawking radtiation and the Casimir effect.
Be careful when you tread into areas that you might not know very much about. I'm no expert either, but at least I've attempted to understand some of it before I make assertions about what is and it not possible.

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Message 54 of 57 (79574)
01-20-2004 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by compmage
01-20-2004 1:31 PM


Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!
Who said the laws of physics need to be defined?
Guidosoft writes:
Hard to believe but it's true man DUH!!!
What is hard to believe but true?
I think Guidosoft is talking about various theories and speculations in cosmology and physics.
He seems to think that because parts of them are speculative that means they are somehow less believable than the God idea.
However, he misses the point that the God idea is totally speculative with no evidence. I think the real problem is that Guidosoft doesn't have any understanding of where the physics is at. (Of course, I don't think I have more than the most tenuous of grasps on what the h... they are talking about myself ).
The fact that something is hard to understand and not worked out yet doesn't mean it is time to reject it. It just means that it isn't time to accept it yet. That's the process that has worked so well before.
If Guidosoft wants to pick God as the trigger for the big bang I don't think there is adequate evidence to make much comment about that idea. However, s/he should be careful about adding to much detail about how God did the job. We are progressing rapidly in cosmology.
Once the universe is kicked off we do understand how things unfolded pretty well. Clearly God has chosen to allow that unfolding to progress free of interference in any detectable way. This makes scientific and theological sense.

Common sense isn't

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