Actually, the debate's over once you present incontrovertable evidence of god. I mean, if you can do that, you win, basically.
I didn't realise this was a competition crashfrog? I started this particular post and got the answer I was looking for. Then it progressed into a discussion on faith, which I found interesting so I put in my 2 cents. And now discussion No.3 ;P. So, what kind of incontrovertable evidence of god are we talking about here? What would it take for you to believe in God? Gimme an example.
There's considerably more physical evidence for the existence of "love" than there is for "God". Which is weird if you claim that God works in this world - created it, eve.
But I do have proof. I've seen the proof. I'm even in love myself.
You don't understand what I am talking about. You mention all these acts of love but you can't tell me what love actually is. I've gone over this already. Where did it come from? If it's all just in your head, where in your head?? Did it evolve or was it always there? Why is it so strong and yet so weak. Your thoughts on that please not the 'acts' of love.
If god is such a big deal there should be incontrovertable evidence all over the place
You love the word incontrovertable don't you?
Well I could go on and on about the stars in the sky, the birds in the air, landscapes, horizons, the human eye, dna storage, bla bla bla but you probably get that a lot so I won't go there ok
One theory I could believe easily is this one:
Take The Matrix (movie) as an example. Here we have a world created by someone or something. It didnt work properly until the creator gave the ppl in the world 'choice'. Maybe Gods works in a simular way. He has given us the world and a choice. I mean why would someone create something like a Matrix and have it do exactly what you want them to do? You would just have a bunch of robots. Pointless. He put us on this earth and let us do what ever we want. We can either follow Him, through His Word and his Son etc, or follow Satan, the deciever, doing whatever he can to turn you away from God. So here we are on this earth with the same evidence and choices to make. It's only the way we perceive it that is the difference.
Believing what you want despite the evidence is not generally a technique used by anyone but Creationists.
Hehe I don't think so. You've said so yourself you are open to the fact that you could be wrong. You would have to have ALL the evidence and knowledge in the universe not just some of it. You would have to know everything in order to state something like that, which I can assure you, you don't.
What is your belief anyway crashfrog? I presume you are an athiest/evolutionist but when you keep asking for evidence on God saying you will believe in God if there is evidence, you come across as someone undecided. Atm you tag along next to evolution, but if something better with more evidence comes along you'll follow that??
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When all else fails, anything remaining, no matter how unlikley, is probable.