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nator
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Message 19 of 40 (46794)
07-21-2003 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
07-21-2003 10:14 PM


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1. So why did the standard of living in the land of Palestine sky rocket in a few decades under Israel after centuries of wasteland under cultures of non-biblical origin and heritage?
Like Crashfrog said...don't mostly Jews live in Israel? Are you saying that Jews are known for holding Fundamentalist Christian views?
Besides, having rich friends (USA) to help you set up house and send you money and arm you probably helped the Israelis quite a lot.
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2. Finland has been traditionally relatively uncorrupted, having a strong Lutheran base with the Bible regarded as the highest authority for morality and society.
Well, they were "corrupted" into Protestantism from the Roman Catholic Church before they were Lutheran. The same happened to Sweden, and many other Western countries.
Before that the local pagan and nature religions were "corrupted" to Catholocism.
It's really all in one's perspective, isn't it?
Also, I think you need to provide some serious evidence to back up your bold assertion that the Finns consider the Bible to be "the highest authority for morality and society" in the fundamentalist, Biblical literalist way you are using it.
[This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-21-2003]

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nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
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Message 35 of 40 (46881)
07-22-2003 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Buzsaw
07-21-2003 11:06 PM


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Jewish scriptures including the Ten Commandments are every bit as important to the Fundie Christian as the NT, though the temple worship and Levitical sacrificial atonement had been replaced by a better testament.
Are you saying that Jews are known for holding Biblicaly literal, fundamentalist Christian views?
Following the ten commandments is hardly the same as taking the entire OT literally, as fundamentalist Christians do.
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Well then tell me this. Were they better off or worse off under Lutheranism?
I don't know, you tell me. you are the one claiming that they are, so you are the one who needs to support that claim.
Also, the last time I checked, most Lutheran denominations are not considered fundamentalist Biblical literalists, either. Lutherans are mainstream protestant.
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Allison: Also, I think you need to provide some serious evidence to back up your bold assertion that the Finns consider the Bible to be "the highest authority for morality and society" in the fundamentalist, Biblical literalist way you are using it.
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I'm the challengee. Your're the challenger. It's your turn to put up.
Um, no. You made the claim that Finland used the Bible as "the highest authority for morality and society", and you made this claim without any accompanying evidence to support it.
You made the claim. Unless you are going to support it, nobody has to believe you.
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Notice I said, "traditionally." They like the good ole US of A are sliding the slippery slope of apostacy also. We, being corrupted by secularism and materialism amid our prosperity are headed for the greater fall.
OK, so they area prosperous country withouthaving a strong fundamentalist component, correct?
Gosh, you want to have it both ways, don't you?
You want to point to the Finland's success as a result of their using the Bible as "the highest authority for morality and society", yet you point to their lack of a fundementalist Christian presence as evidence that they are "heading for a fall."
It couldn't possibly be that you, once again, made some factual claim before doing some research to see if it had any basis in reality, could it?
Now, because you are also largely incapable of correcting your own errors, you pridefully and pointlessly stand in opposition to those of us who took the time to look up the facts which you should have found had you thought, just for a moment, that your own guesses about how things are just might not be accurate!
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