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Message 36 of 79 (472333)
06-21-2008 6:49 PM


INFLATION
Greetings,
azpaul3 writes:
Since this is Cosmology 101 not Personality 101 let's try to get back to the OP.
cavediver or Son Goku: If it's too early for this depth of discussion please say so, but the OP specifically asked for points on inflation.
One slant on the mechanism includes a scalar field energy difference (kinetic v potential) exerting negative pressure with GR saying under such negative pressure gravity becomes a repulsive force. Another hypothesis posits a scalar field of inflatons or a combination of Higgs fields (?)
Can either of you enlighten us on these hypotheses?
Anyone?
http://EvC Forum: Cosmology 101 -->EvC Forum: Cosmology 101
Edited by Force, : edit

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Message 42 of 79 (472426)
06-22-2008 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Agobot
06-22-2008 3:07 AM


Re: Multiverse
Agobot,
"HEY WHAT ABOUT MY QUESTION?"
http://EvC Forum: Cosmology 101 -->EvC Forum: Cosmology 101
Edited by Force, : LINK ERR

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Message 43 of 79 (472429)
06-22-2008 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by cavediver
06-21-2008 7:39 PM


Re: Back to The OP
cavediver,
Scalar fields have been part of space-time physics since GR was first published 93 years ago. Einstein's Cosmological Constant (CC) is effectively a trivial scalar field. The template for Inflation, the exponentially expanding de-Sitter space-time discovered a few years after GR was puclished, is driven by the CC. True scalar fields became a serious consideration in Kaluza Klein theories (1920s) and later in Brans-Dicke theory around 1960. In the 70s and 80s, scalar fields were scattered throughout Supergravity, and then onwards in all flavours of string theory and now M-theory. There is nothing new about scalar fields
For a scalar field to drive an inflationary period of the Universe is trivial. However, to get the precise type of inflation that is consistent with observation requires a bit more care, and will probably involved a mixture of competing scalar fields. For those of us who have worked with supergravity and string theory, the scalar fields needed for inflation are not the ones we normally considered of old (wrong sign), but that has now been shown not to be a problem.
There's a good chance we will see our first evidence of a scalar field in action as the LHC starts delivering results - the Higgs field.
So, is a "scaler field" a force of positive or negetive energy that spans the entire universe in a particular frequency?
I just wanted to provide a link on LHC:
http://www.uslhc.us/What_is_the_LHC
Edited by Force, : link

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Message 45 of 79 (472434)
06-22-2008 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by cavediver
06-22-2008 12:45 PM


Re: Back to The OP
cavediver,
Are scaler fields a complete inference or is there evidence that they exist?

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Message 68 of 79 (472768)
06-24-2008 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Taz
06-22-2008 11:01 PM


Re: Multiverse
Taz,
agobot writes:
The strentgh of the fundamental forces in the universe(force of gravity, speed of light, strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, proton mass, etc.) is so finely tuned(to support life?), that the only good explanation for the existence of these finely tuned conditions besides god, would be a multiverse and multiple big bangs giving rise to multiple universes.
Agobot gave two explanations for the begining.

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Message 70 of 79 (472779)
06-24-2008 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Taz
06-24-2008 4:54 PM


Re: Multiverse
Taz,
taz writes:
And as I pointed out earlier, you can't do jack shit with a single data point.
we have no other data stream and there is no evidence for there to be any other one.

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Message 72 of 79 (472783)
06-24-2008 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by New Cat's Eye
06-24-2008 5:17 PM


Re: Multiverse
CS,
which does not change that we only have 1 data stream of information.

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Message 74 of 79 (472786)
06-24-2008 5:31 PM
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06-24-2008 5:29 PM


bump
Edited by Force, : bump

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