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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
and why would my speculations on the subject "not" be correct? Because there are 3.786 ” 1084 ways to speculate and no one has that kind of luck. Love it
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Hey Buz, meet V-Bird.
Hey V-Bird, meet Buz. [CD quietly retreats to the phreas]
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
educate not humiliate Great advice - but I would caution you not to open yourself up to humiliation. To become educated, you need to express a willingness to learn. Shouting off rash opinions in a subject as complex as space-time physics will not gain you many potential educators. Ask questions. Lots of questions. And listen to the answers. Don't try and argue the subject - you don't know anywhere near enough yet to argue. If you don't understand, or if it sounds wrong, ask more questions. If your 'educator' is any good, he will keep explaining and explaining (time permitting) and you will start to learn. I would have suffered a great deal less humiliation if I had followed the above advice on my own journey to becoming a cosmologist
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I see the Cosmos as just energy, all of it. So what is energy?
This is the fundamentally correct way to view the Cosmos. Are you sure?
the 'haze' of the proton circling the nucleus of an atom And the nucleus is made up of what?
Casimir 'parallel plate' Effect Please explain the Casimir Effect to me.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Hi Fabric - please don't listen to anything V-Bird says - he's a typical internet crank who thinks his ideas will replace the last 100 years of space-time physics. There's a million of his type out there, and they don't have a clue between them
"Things" aren't made out of "energy" in any way. Smooth or discrete? Wow, that's a deep question. I would say eventually discrete, but whether there is still any semblance of what we would call space at the level it becomes discrete, I'm not so sure. I gues what that means is that as you look deeper and deeper, it would stop looking like space long before it starts looking discrete. But that's just a Sunday afternoon hunch Dark energy is a piece of cake compared to the above question. We're not sure what dark energy is in the same way that we're not sure what makes up the secert ingrediants in Coke or Pepsi. Is not that we have no clue... we have many clues, and we know many things that it definitely is not. But we're just not sure which guess is the right one yet. Don't let the popular press overstate our ignorance... Don't forget to use the reply button for adding posts - don't just use the general reply button (unless it is a general reply) as it breaks the flow. Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Energy in the form of EMR. I asked 'what is energy?' - is that all you can come up with as a reply? It's a bit self-referential, don't you think?
Without a doubt, the only thing that clearly defines the cosmos from nothing IS energy. You seem to use 'energy' as a place-holder for your ignorance. That's not very scientific.
Perhaps you think YOU understand what the parallel plate phenomena is but I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Then how do I manage to calculate from theory the observed force to such high precision if I am wrong? Lucky guess???
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Energy is motion. No, it's not
you don't have an explanation Yes, I do
the best you can manage is virtual particles No, it's not. Why would I use virtual particles to explain the Casimir Effect??? I'm not some pop-science writer - I actually know what I'm talking about You seem to be wrong on quite a few counts here...
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
No motion = no energy So an isolated non-rotating black hole has no energy? Really?
At its most basic energy is only motion and motion of any kind is energy, it is had to accept for some I know You're not wrong
but to deny this is just flying in the face of reality. *YOUR* reality, of course
I explain, you contradict without explanation. No, you bullshit, and I call it
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
...and therefore within the black hole you think that matter, all matter suddenly becomes stagnant? What matter? I'm only considering bosonic fields. There is no motion. Is there no energy?
Protons no longer revolve a nucleus? I'm sorry, is this English?
You cannot be wronger if you tried. Ah, apparently English is taking a nap today...
show me motion without energy or vice versa I have shown you the 'vice versa'. Sadly, you seem to be about ten years of study away from being able to understand my example. [ABE] Sorry, just had to comment on this:
There is no swirl within as the matter spears into the blackness? I'm sorry, your technical black-hole jargon is way over my head Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
He's got a point, Percy. As far as I am aware, Hawkins does indeed understand the consequences of the red dobbler.
[help, I think I'm dying...]
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