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Was Jesus A Legitimate Child?

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09-02-2008 5:11 AM

Technically speaking, wasn't Jesus a semi-orphan?
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09-02-2008 6:26 AM

Is Jesus the second God?
If God created Jesus as his son and the Bible says that Jesus is God, doesn't that mean that currently there are 2 Gods: God + Jesus?
And more importantly the underlying question:
Can God create another God?
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09-02-2008 9:14 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by iano
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Re: Is Jesus the second God?
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An eternally existing God couldn't create another eternally existing God. Whatever he created couldn't, thus, be God (if "eternally existing" is a feature of what God is)
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Then is Jesus God or not?
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09-02-2008 9:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by iano
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Re: Is Jesus the second God?
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Yes Jesus is God (the son). But he wasn't created by God (the father).
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That doesn't seem to make too much sense. If God is the father of Jesus(which you claim is also God), how wasn't Jesus created by God? What kind of father is God if he didn't create his own son?? To me that sounds like bullshit.
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Edit: Are you saying that Jesus is not created by his Father(God) but existed eternally? But then how could he be a son of God if they are both eternal? Is the Bible lying and how many gods are there anyway?
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09-03-2008 4:54 PM 		Reply to: Message 27 by iano
09-03-2008 1:36 PM

Re: Holy Spirit Not A Person
bluejay writes:
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I do not believe in such a God, and I would rather go to Hell to spite such a God than to do what He demands just so I can spend eternity in blissful Heaven.
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iano writes:
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You don't seem to be talking about a God who saves you for free - without you having to do a thing to be saved or to remain saved. In which case we are not talking about the same God.
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Most, if not all of us will not go to heaven. Welcome to the club .
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EDIT: it seems the most intelligent will be coming my way, it's nice to have intelligent company(be it in hell)
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