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Author Topic:   A Genesis Day and the Age of the Earth: what does the Bible say?
johnfolton 
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Message 80 of 121 (486107)
10-16-2008 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by rueh
10-15-2008 2:13 PM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
Doing a short bible study came across this verse that God is able to bind or loosen the bands of gravity (the scientific principle of string theory in the bible). Since he created the earth no reason it was orbiting the sun until he turned it over to the sun to rule the day it might well be that the sun was not a star until the 4th creation day in that in the New Jerusalem the tree of life will bear fruit yet no light of the sun only the light that the Lord God giveth rev 22:5, etc...
The bible tells us that God is able to control the bands of gravity and control the movements of the heavenly.
P.S. The moon is about the same size of the New Jerusalem that will be carried back toward the earth. The bible says the Lord sits on the circle of the earth and interestingly the face of the moon always faces the earth and seems closer to a circle than to an eliptical orbit due to each moving to the barycenter of the other the earth actually moves in respect to the moon as it orbits the sun.
Whatever, after the great white throne judgement the new jerusalem comes out of heaven from God to our planet earth. akjv revelation 21:2. Thats quite a control over the forces of gravity because the new jerusalem should be slamming into the earth but scripture has it is the home of the saved, our mansions that are within which the Lord said he was preparing for those of us that will be saved where death will be swallowed up in victory, that where our Lord is there will we too be, etc...
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Job 38:31 King James Bible
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Job 38:32 King James Bible
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
rev 21:12 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
rev 21:10 And he carried me awy in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven form God,
rev 21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth; and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
Isaiah 40:22 King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
John 14:2-3 KJV" In my Father's house are many mansions. if it were not so, I would have told you. I go and prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
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ORION
In fact, all these stars that at the present time constitute the constellation of Orion are bound for different ports, and all are journeying to different corners of the universe, so that the bands are being dissolved.
THE PLEIADES
The Pleiades stars may thus be compared to a swarm of birds, flying together to a distant goal. This leaves no doubt that the Pleiades are not a temporary or accidental agglomeration of stars, but a system in which the stars are bound together by a close kinship.
ARCTURUS
"Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?" Garrett P. Serviss wrote:
Arcturus, one of the greatest suns in the universe, is a runaway whose speed of flight is 257 miles per second. Arcturus, we have every reason to believe, possesses thousands of times the mass of our sun. Think of it! Our sun is traveling only 12 miles a second, but Arcturus is traveling 257 miles a second.
http://www.christiantrumpetsounding.com/god_of_science.htm
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The Earth, Sun, and Moon
The earth and moon revolving around the barycenter.
http://library.thinkquest.org/29033/begin/earthsunmoon.htm
Earth and Moon Compared
The Moon has approximately 1/4 Earth's diameter, 1/50 Earth's volume, and 1/80 Earth's mass. Earth is very dense overall (it is the densest planet in the Solar System), but the Moon is light for its size. The difference is partly because Earth has a large core of iron and other heavy metallic elements, while the Moon has only a small core, if it has a core at all.
http://home.xtra.co.nz/...0Orbit%20Around%20the%20Earth.html
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johnfolton 
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Message 81 of 121 (486108)
10-16-2008 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by bluescat48
10-15-2008 3:43 PM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
If the earth wasn't revolving around the sun, the sun's gravity would have pulled the earth into the sun
The bible disagree's he is able to bind or loosen these forces you call gravity.
Note: Seems the lucerne accelerator was shutdown due a hotspot the magnetics could not control. Seems like they are trying to play god in respect to gravity and akjv rev:13 sounds like gravity being affected where not only massive earthquakes, but the stuff in orbit of the earth will come falling back to the earth.
Kind of funny your digital phone getting taken out by the lucerne folk. The bible says if God did not intervene man would destroy the earth so no flesh would survive.
It sounds like if lucerne is not bunker bombed it will startup in 2009 possibly as soon as possible however if they could not control a hotspot how could they control something if it happens when they are up to full strength.
It sounds to me like it might well be something that magnetics will not contain like some kind of graviton wave out of a science fiction horror movie come to life, near destroying the whole earth where the powers of the heavens the Word says shall be shaken akjv Matthew 24:29.
Guess for believers if we die or not will not matter too much because rapture is said to happen shortly after this event, etc... akjv matthew 24:29-31.
P.S. Do you think the lucerne particle accelerator should be bunker bombed? What man made device is capable other than the lucerne particle accelerator that could possibly shake the powers of the heavens that God says is going to be shaken?
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Message 83 of 121 (486138)
10-16-2008 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by bluescat48
10-16-2008 9:07 AM


Re: Re A Genesis Day
Man might kill off himself and other life, but in no way can he, at this time, destroy the planet. It will exist for millions, maybe billions of years after man has become extinct.
The Bible clearly says in Revelation 11:18 that "God will destroy those who destroy the earth."
I agree God will shorten those days for the elects sake that man is capable of destroying all flesh if God did not intervene no life would survive the coming apocalypse. God won't allow the earth to be destroyed but appears the heavens shall be shaken.
Do you think April 5th 2009 is too soon for the Lucerne to get back to powering up? For the start date of the apocalypse? Two things to keep our eye on the treaty with Israel and the startup of CERN interesting times were living in. However the bible says were the generation!
P.S. Jack Van Impe one of the great tele evangelists agrees with you that the earth will never be destroyed.
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Thursday, 25 September, 2008, 08:55
Swiss news at a glance
CERN stops ’big bang’ experiment until next year
The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is going to be out of operation for longer than previously estimated. The Director of CERN says that having to shut down the particle accelerator until the spring is “a major psychological blow” for Geneva’s European Organization for Nuclear Research. A few days ago, CERN estimated that repairs on an electrical connection would mean that the LHC would be down for about two months.
Error 404 - WRS
The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva will be shut off until spring 2009 while engineers probe a magnet failure.
The incident on 19 September caused a tonne of liquid helium to leak out into the experiment's 27km-long tunnel.
Officials said the time required to fully investigate the problem precluded a re-start before the lab's winter maintenance period.
BBC News - Collider halted until next year
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akjv Matthew 24:22 And except "those days" should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect"s sake those days shall be shortened.
akjv Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of "those days" shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Doesn't say the planet will be destroyed just that the powers of the heaven shall be shaken:
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Message 88 of 121 (486402)
10-20-2008 12:54 AM


I'm leaning that on September 19th 2009 will be the rapture the church folk in heaven paralleling the tribulation happening on Earth with the end of the 6th Great day will be 2016 and the start of the wedding feast being the Seventh Great day of the LORD his ruling and reigning those thousand years with those Saints returning on those white horses.
The bible says no man knows the day nor the hour but warned to be watching cause if your not you will be left behind. right? Is revelation 2:10 for those Saints that are left behind that were not ready like the first 10 days of the last 42 months rev 13:5 given to the beast that is a man rev 13:18. till the Lord reaps the earth mentioned in revelation chapter 14:15-16? If ten days are 514 days (3*360\7=154 + 360= 514 days?) after they are overcome rev 13:7 to being reaped then the bowls of wrath rev chapter 16 is reserved for the tares left behind after this reaping of the earth of these saints left behind matthew 13:30.
Note: The moon being red as in revelation if caused by the folks at CERN by shaking the powers of the heavens sound like its not one of those solar lunar eclipses that other folk are looking at signaling the rapture.
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