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Author Topic:   A Genesis Day and the Age of the Earth: what does the Bible say?
anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 105 of 121 (502763)
03-13-2009 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by ICANT
03-13-2009 1:54 AM


Re: Gen. 1:5 DAY = LIGHT
ICANT writes:
Everything in the universe was created in Genesis 1:1.
The book came before the universe? Guess that whole thing about Moses describing his own death must have been pre-witten.
When was the beginning?
Was it 6,000 years ago?
Was it 14.7 billion years ago?
Or was it a lot longer than that?
Some Hindus say 491 billion years ago, but they believe in reincarnation so I would imagine a reincarnated universe is not much of a problem to their theology.
He created the heaven and the earth.
Was it in the form we see it today?
Not necessarily.
God can do anything.
God Bless,
Sure, God can do anything.
I suppose someone else's god would curse humankind for arrogantly using their knowledge to cure smallpox, malaria, leprosy, or indeed work to cure hunger and poverty.
But that is only the idle speculation concerning the depth of evil the OT god would do, as opposed to the NT God.
Mixing the two is the greatest example of mescignation imaginable.
So what is more important to Christians? How long a day is or to heal the sick, feed the poor, and uplift the meek?
We have clear answers here already.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 118 of 121 (502980)
03-14-2009 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by ICANT
03-13-2009 12:02 PM


Dishonest Accusation
ICANT writes:
In the town where I live we have two food banks, 1 homeless shelter, 1 shelter for battered women and 1 for young girls who get pregnant.
Everyone of them is owned and run by those Christians you claim to be better than.
Show me any post where I claimed to be "better" than any Christian that runs a food bank, homeless shelter, battered woman's shelter, or pregnant teen shelter.
I have yet to find the one sponsored by any other religion, or the one sponsored by the atheist.
Then start a new thread with your assertion that no religion other than Christianity offers aid to the hungry, the homeless, battered women, or pregnant teens.
Support or retract your accusations, or show all including God that you spit on any commandment against bearing false witness.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 866 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 120 of 121 (503252)
03-17-2009 3:22 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by ICANT
03-15-2009 1:18 PM


Re: Dishonest Accusation
ICANT writes:
I do owe you an apology as I spoke hastly in a heated moment.
If I remember correctly you have never specifically,"claimed to be "better" than any Christian that runs a food bank, homeless shelter, battered woman's shelter, or pregnant teen shelter."
Spoken as a true gentleman, I accept without condition.
{ABE} I have also misrepresented any 'opposition' in the heat of the moment and therefore am equally guilty on some occasions{/ABE}
But when I read statements like you made following the hundreds I have already read after awhile it gets to be too much.
God Bless,
It is not my purpose to upset anyone, but rather to ask that they question even that which is most difficult to question. The true God can handle it.
Perhaps I should remind you that I do believe in God, I believe that the gospels are the greatest story ever told, and that the Bible is an extremely important collection of books in understanding the development of Christianity and the human condition.
The difference lies in the fact I also consider the Tao and Bhagavad Gita equally inspired, even though the message may significantly differ, particularly when it comes to humility in the face of God.
And of course the main difference, that I believe in the works of God over the words of men.
This whole deal to me is that I have the inherent right to defend my interpretation of religion against all others when it comes to public education or government sanctions.
You are more than welcome by me to interpret what you consider holy and to express such beliefs in any forum. Just don't expect your interpretations to be immune from critical analysis.
I hope that in the future, you would also allow me the same consideration. Naturally subject to an equivalent critical analysis.
Now I think it best to end this side discussion and deal with the subject at hand. I have basically said my peace, should you wish to continue, start a new thread.
Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon
The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

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