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Author Topic:   Big Bang vs. God
chrisc
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Message 9 of 57 (48749)
08-05-2003 6:42 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Agent Uranium [GPC]
08-04-2003 6:30 PM


The Universe is amazing and so is God!
Every society is made from evolutionists. Society doesn't just appear. It has been created and exists in many different forms across the globe, each one bearing their own creation story.
Scientifically, however, every societies scientific community has endorsed the idea of a 15 billion or so year old Universe.
We know that the Universe is expanding because when we look anywhere in the Universe we see every object moving away from us. The steady state theory is unfounded scientifically, and was only a theoretical conception. We know that the universe is expanding, that the nearest major galaxy is about 2.5 million light years away (Alpha Cent., and that the farthest objects which can be observed by scientists are called quasaras and are about 15-20 billion light years away.
That's pretty far. A light year means that it takes light, traveling at a speed far unreachable by current human technology a year to get to us. The farthest that anyone on Earth can currently see is about 15-20 billion light years away. Crazy huh.
So all of this, plus much more, has led people all over the globe from every race, religion, and country who study astronomy, to the conclusion that the universe is at least 15 billion years old, and probably older.
God is good. Look at what the Lord has provided for us to explore, the universe is seemingly infinite to our concepts of time and space. A human could not even live long enough to reach the closest star, traveling as fast as our technology will allow, yet there are billions of stars that we can see in our galaxy.
Furthermore, there are billions of galaxies in the universe.
It is mind boggling how wonderful it all is, and this is just a taste of what God can do, although this is already an amazing universe.
Whatever your belief is, I suggest that people take time to reflect on the vast expanse of everything visible that is offered in the nights sky. My advise is to never cease to be amazed at God's creation. Don't ever stop wondering.
Furthermore, if for some reason you don't think that the "big bang" theory is an accurate theory to explain the current state of the universes expanding nature as well as its vastness, which spans well over 6,000 light years, feel free to enter any of the Universities or Colleges across the world and use their observatories for your own examination. Let the people of the world know of a more inclussive theory.
But for tonight, at least, simply take the time to look up at the stars and be amazed. And never stop wondering.

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chrisc
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Message 14 of 57 (48811)
08-05-2003 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by The Tinus
08-05-2003 11:27 AM


Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!
Sorry, that was a stupid mistake regarding the nearest star. What I meant to refer to was the nearest major galaxy, Andromeda, which is 2.3 million light years away. So we know that the universe is at least that old because it takes at least that long for light to reach us. If the universe is 6,000 years old, it would be impossible for us to see something that is 2.3 million years old, notably the light from Andromeda.
Thanks compage and others for correcting that.
Also, to compage, my first post was directed more towards "creationists" who suppose that the universe could only be 6,000 years old or so. I was wondering how they account for simple observations such as the red shift, etc.
I was not concluding that there must be a God given the size of the Universe, such an argument would be invalid. My argument was being offered to Christians who believe that "creation" could only happen 6,000 years ago.
If God or some form of a god exists, then maybe you have seen what God has created. However, if not, then neither have I. But my personal belief in God is coupled with the fact that I cannot ignore the reality of the Universe (as far as age, etc.).
The main point of my first post was simply to encourage people who hold religious beliefs from any background (each religion has its own origins theory for the most part) to not be ashamed in accepting how the material world was formed.
I believe in God but don't see that as the slightest problem in believing scientific facts regarding the origin of our planet, etc. I see the big bang, the origin of our galaxy, our star, and our planet as the creation. I was encouraging people who currently think that it just appeared, in the blink of an eye, to re-examine the physical evidence that scientists from every religion, nation, race, etc. have observed and have to account for. What they have observed in all of these cases leads them to the conclusion that there was some type of "big bang" or rapid expansion of the known universe approximately 15-20 billion years ago.
What they have not concluded is that everything we see was created in 6 days. It's just something to think about.
[This message has been edited by chrisc, 08-05-2003]
[This message has been edited by chrisc, 08-05-2003]

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