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Message 10 of 57 (48757)
08-05-2003 7:20 AM

Reply to: Message 9 by chrisc
08-05-2003 6:42 AM

Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!

chrisc writes:

We know that the universe is expanding, that the nearest major galaxy is about 2.5 million light years away (Alpha Cent.

Alpha Centauri isn't nearly that far away. Alpha Cent. A and B are roughly 4.35 ly distant, while Alpha Cent. C (Proxima Centauri) is about 4.22 ly distant.

See this site.

There are many more that you could easily find.

chrisc writes:

God is good. Look at what the Lord has provided for us to explore, the universe is seemingly infinite to our concepts of time and space.

What is it about the size of the universe that leads to the conclusion that God exists?

chrisc writes:

Whatever your belief is, I suggest that people take time to reflect on the vast expanse of everything visible that is offered in the nights sky. My advise is to never cease to be amazed at God's creation. Don't ever stop wondering.

I never stop wondering, however, I have yet to see anything that God has created. For that matter I am not even sure that a 'God' even exists.

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Message 12 of 57 (48776)
08-05-2003 10:13 AM

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08-05-2003 8:38 AM

Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!

Parasomnium writes:

And of course Alpha Centauri isn't a galaxy but a trinary star system.

LOL. I can't believe I missed that.

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Message 15 of 57 (48867)
08-06-2003 3:03 AM

Reply to: Message 14 by chrisc
08-05-2003 2:43 PM

Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!

chrisc writes:

Andromeda, which is 2.3 million light years away.

That makes far more sense.

chrisc writes:

Also, to compage, my first post was directed more towards "creationists" who suppose that the universe could only be 6,000 years old or so. I was wondering how they account for simple observations such as the red shift, etc.

When, or should I say, if you get a responce be prepared for some really strange answers.

chrisc writes:

I was not concluding that there must be a God given the size of the Universe, such an argument would be invalid.

I am glad we agree on this.

Now, I think I will wait and see what responses you get from the creationists.

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Message 53 of 57 (79570)
01-20-2004 1:31 PM

Reply to: Message 51 by Christian7
01-19-2004 8:43 PM

Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!

Guidosoft writes:

Are not theese the decieving scientist who said the earth was flat before galilalo and columbus.

Who? Creationists?

Guidosoft writes:

Did not the bible state the earth was round.

No. The Bible mentions the 'circle of the earth', a circle being a flat, coin like, disc. The Bible also describes certain events which are only possible if the earth is flat.

Guidosoft writes:

All of a sudden the laws of physics have been defined and material has come into exisitence.

Who said the laws of physics need to be defined?

Guidosoft writes:

Hard to believe but it's true man DUH!!!

What is hard to believe but true?

Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in
this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely
conceives it, wants it, and loves it.
- Mikhail Bakunin, God and the State, from The Columbian Dictionary of Quotations

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Message 56 of 57 (81816)
01-31-2004 1:52 PM

Reply to: Message 55 by Christian7
01-31-2004 12:44 PM

Re: The Universe is amazing and so is God!

Guidosoft writes:

Jesus once said "Do not focus on what you can see because it is only temporary but what you can't see is eternal."

He did? And I suppose that makes it true?

Guidosoft writes:

How does the brain make self awareness?

It don't. It's a calculator made out of cells with an unfound bridge to you SPIRIT with has you soul.

Could you show me this spirit or soul?

Guidosoft writes:

Because we have self awarness how can eveolution have truth?

What does our being self-aware have to do with 'eveolution' and truth?

Guidosoft writes:

It seems as though you have never read it once.

If you pay close attention throughut the bible the earth's round or eliptical shape as a Sphere is suggested but not specificly stated.

How does Jesus being able to see the entire world from the top of a mountain suggest that the world is a sphere?

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