We youth at EvC are in Moral Decline

Our Little Rico (sp?) law (like the ones during Prohition in the 30's) allows the state to confiscate all of their assets, including bank accounts. And yes, due to the behaviour of their child. Guilty until proven innocent. The law was instituted in order to shut down pot farms and disable the infrastructure of drug dealers. Sounded good on paper, but ...As I recall, they were eventually exonerated but not before enduring mental anguish, abject poverty, social embarrassment, and homelessness. Imagine how this looks on their record. I wonder how can one hold a job under such circumstances. How does one shower, change clothing, eat breakfast, get to work? Will they be fired, now that they're felons? Will anyone hire them in the future?db

I'd say what I feel but then your husband would have to kill me.

Could be. The health care over there is much more affordable (or was in 1990) than over here, and so is health insurance (of course, since those go hand in hand). Public transportation is also better (although not as good as I had as a kid in Taiwan in the early 70's, and perhaps not as good as say, San Francisco with BART and the trolleys or NY with its subways, I'm not sure).I don't know about subsidized housing. The landlords and landladies I had over there didn't sound like they were being subsidized.I definitely think a lot less people fall through the cracks over there.As one more aside, I found out today that I can't give blood indefinitely because of I was in Germany over 5 years between 1980 and 1996, and because more than 6 months of that was in the military. Mad Cow disease is what the nurse told me.

No, of course not, but that's not what I was saying. I was asking why anyone would be stuck at minimum wage forever. It's hard for me to imagine that anyone holding a job for a long period would be at minimum wage the whole time, or that they couldn't eventually find another minimum wage job that wouldn't leave them there. I never made minimum wage even working for Manpower temp services, although sometimes I didn't make much more.

Yes, I discovered the same thing a year or two ago when the Red Cross changed the rules - I had lived in England for 6 months or so in 6th grade and that's too long for the Red Cross now. A pity because I had been a very avid blood donor since I was old enough to do so.

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........And to get closer to topic, the reason many, I say many, not all, cannot pay the rent is moral depravity.
1. Drunkeness
2. Drugs
3. Laziness (let the working taxpayer support me.)
4. Dishonesty (can't be trusted in a job)
5. Thievery (again can't be trusted or record ruined for hiring) 6. Poor rent record. (ruins homes rented in past or spent rent money on drugs or boose.)
7. Flat out refusal to pay rent due even when able.
On and on the list could go.

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Hmmm this list largely describes George Bush Jr. (Mr. proud to hold up conservative Christian values) and many heads of major corporations i.e. Waksal the soon to be jailbait ex head Imclone...so it would seem your list of moral depravity is also a key to political and financial success...go figure..or go get drunk and run a country to ruin.

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.or go get drunk and run a country to ruin.

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I'm going to the liquor store right now. Ha... ha... My rise to power has begun! hickup...Seriously, what you note is pretty scary. I wish it weren't as accurate as it is.------------------
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I have tried the getting drunk part without doing the rest of the list..and am still not leader of a country (though I do pay my rent)..it must be the combination of the 7 that makes one a member of the ultra-conservative religious elite ...

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I'd say what I feel but then your husband would have to kill me.

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Wow.Cool.

Speaking of drunkenness....There was an item on NPR the other day where it seems that people who drink have higher salaries than those who don't. The social function of work-related gatherings (going out for a drink with the boss) combined with the inhibition-lowering effects of alcohol make for a situation where those who drink are more likely to be in a position to make a good impression upon the boss and get a raise.------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Phew! What a relief. That you took so long to comment had me worried. I went over what I'd said a hundred times and began to think that I had offended you. Glad you're back. db

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Speaking of drunkenness....
There was an item on NPR the other day where it seems that people who drink have higher salaries than those who don't. The social function of work-related gatherings (going out for a drink with the boss) combined with the inhibition-lowering effects of alcohol make for a situation where those who drink are more likely to be in a position to make a good impression upon the boss and get a raise.

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You begin your post with the implication that you're going to address drunkenness. Then you switch to drinking in your statement. Which is it? I'm quite sure a pattern of drunkenness is not going to get one far. My post did not specify drinking. I drink both wine and beer moderately myself, as the Lord Jesus and his apostles did drink wine. It is drunkenness and gluttony that the Bible warns of, and for obvious reasons.

buz, does the word "tangent" mean nothing to you?------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

Rrhain. It's not speaking of drunkeness though. Only those who drink in moderation gain this benefit (about 2k a year), those who exceed government limits or are frequently drunk do worse.

Mr Jack, does the word "tangent" mean anything to you, either?Drunkenness means you drink. Thus, I pointed out a tangent whereby it seems that people who do drink are better off than people who don't.And tangentially, many religious groups insist that their members don't drink at all.By the way, what is your definition of "drunk"? I will probably have a much stricter version than you.------------------
Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!