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Author Topic:   We youth at EvC are in Moral Decline
John
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Message 48 of 253 (48607)
08-04-2003 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Mammuthus
08-04-2003 11:44 AM


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...should be teaching them how to have safe sex for fun...
You're just wishfully thinking.
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John
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Message 71 of 253 (48769)
08-05-2003 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by truthlover
08-04-2003 9:40 PM


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Ok, so why then are the atheists busting my chops for suggesting that increasing divorce rates are bad? You can't have it both ways. Either it's a good thing ("higher calibre ethics") to avoid divorce or it's great that it's happening so much more nowadays. You can't have both.
Or divorce isn't a moral issue at all. It is practical, as is marriage. From a Christian perspective, marriage and morality are so intertwined that it is hard to think in other terms. Within many cultures, marriage is simply economic or mostly economic. It is functional, not magical. Even in the West, within Judaism and Christianity and despite the moralistic rhetoric, marriage has until recently had a strong element of finance to it. Consider the practice of arranged marriage.
BTW, I wish guys like Ron would just shut up.
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John
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Message 72 of 253 (48770)
08-05-2003 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by truthlover
08-04-2003 10:37 PM


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I have to admit that a women's situation after a divorce would have been horrendous in the 50's. That would definitely stop her from being the initiator then.
Not to mention the nightmare one had to undergo to get the divorce, or so I hear. Sounds like it was the equivalent of a full scale lawsuit.
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John
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Message 103 of 253 (48918)
08-06-2003 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Mammuthus
08-06-2003 4:20 AM


My addition to your and DrBill's suggestions as to why the violent crime rates have increased is population density. We are growing-- globally-- and in an increasingly restricted space. Growing hurts. Everything gets worse as population increases, and likely won't level off until the population stops increasing. ( Or maybe I'm just anti-social. )
My opinion is that it is going to take a lot more than looking at the raw crime rates to answer this question. Too many variables need to be taken into account. My guess would be that crime rates have risen slightly. The question then becomes, "Is it morality, or economics?" I'd go with economics.
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John
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Message 142 of 253 (50130)
08-12-2003 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 141 by Mammuthus
08-12-2003 10:55 AM


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.or go get drunk and run a country to ruin.
I'm going to the liquor store right now. Ha... ha... My rise to power has begun! hickup...
Seriously, what you note is pretty scary. I wish it weren't as accurate as it is.
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John
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Message 188 of 253 (51301)
08-20-2003 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by xwhydoyoureyesx
08-19-2003 10:17 PM


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I think the question is: who cares?
Apparently a hell of a lot of people care. The many elected officials who care are of great importance, but lets not forget the injustice and misery which can be inflicted by the many citizens who care.
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