Problems with both Creationism and Evolution

How does that make any sense? A singularity isn't nothing. It's something. This doesn't even happen in our universe. Nothing becomes something all the time. It's called the Casimir effect.

Well, yes, but it was through the Casimir effect that these vacuum fluctuations can be detected. But my wording was unclear.

But you don't know there was nothing. It was outside the universe. Who's to say what was there? Some kind of meta-spacetime, maybe?For all we know, nothing can't even exist. We certainly don't see any "nothing" in this universe.

No, logic is math, so you don't have that, either.

Deductive reasoning is math. Deductive reasoning is an axiomatic system. Axiomatic systems are math. Don't confuse math to just mean "numbers".

Your link confuses logic - which is about constructing syllogyms that preserve truth value - with rhetoric, which is the use of language to construct argument.Logic builds statements from basic axioms via transformations that preserve truth value. Math does the same thing. If math and logic do the same thing, then they're the same. There's just no difference between math and logic.Logic isn't about language, it's about symbols. Rhetoric is about language, and is in fact philosophy.On the other hand, you may be referring to informal logic, which we use to debate. I guess I'm referring to formal logic, which is mathematics.

What is it with people and this need to convince themselves that the subject of their study has independant physical reality? First Rrhain with mathematics, and now Pixelator needs logic to persist longer than the universe.What's next? A linguist telling me that French isn't just spoken in France, it exists even if there was no one to speak it? That French exists even outside the universe?This stuff is made up, people! It's all in your head!