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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined:
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quote: 'You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that and shudder.' Jas 2:19 NIV
quote: Surely Mormon teachers can do better than 'God'.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: Come on, that smacks of a patronising attitude, a means tested hand-out. People have dignity, and don't need charity, thank you. We will get what we want and deserve without any help.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
Do you have an up to date Bible? I don't get all these funny words.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
You can't force morons to answer.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
The rest of the world gazes in awe, speechless, at the folly of the USA. But possibly the most eye-wiping characteristic of Americans is their ability to stoutly resist the doctrine of justification by faith, while doing so in such a manner as to demonstrate that they have not the smallest hope of being justified by personal works.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: What does man do to get God's salvation?
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:It is so contingent. Mormons say: 'We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.' The gospel is that there are now no laws and ordinances. Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:Aha! What's the difference between a Mormon, a Calvinist and a Catholic? I can't think of one. No wonder you came back, blue jay!
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: They do. They just say they don't. Good at talking, Calvinists. Reams of it!
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
What people don't cotton onto about Calvinists is that they are not necessarily Christians. Even if their (horrible) theology is correct, it proves nothing about them. Their works are Puritan- formal dressing, sabbath-keeping, water baptism and the like. A toned-down, literally a reformed Catholicism. They are unconverted, and fear taking a decision for Christ above everything.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:There are very few people who would say that X, and Y, are not evangelical Christians (substitute names of any two well-known Calvinist preachers for X and Y). Try it, and see what happens. quote:Wow. You've been lucky. They do nothing but lie, evade and get personal when they are cornered, in my experience. Just like Catholics and you know who. quote:There you are, you see. We've both heard that before.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: Played.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote:We know what your point was. The fact that you have completely ignored the 'solution' to it tends to indicate that you understand that solution, but don't much like it. If that is incorrect, deal with what I wrote in reply.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
But you haven't admitted that Matthew 19:16-17 is an anachronism.
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ochaye Member (Idle past 5268 days) Posts: 307 Joined: |
quote: Because the atonement made works for justification redundant. Why was there atonement, if works were adequate?
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