Michamus writes:
This can be easily be argued as Adam and Eve being the parents of the Human Body, not spirit. A good question would be, where does the Human Spirit come from? Does the Bible have any accounts of man existing before this mortal existence?
If this were true, then the spirit would always be conscious and the scriptures you quote from jeremiah and Job would make no sense because why would Jeremiah and Job not remember their pre human existence.
The spirit of man is said to die in the bible.
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Ecclesiasties 3:19For there is an eventuality as respects the sons of mankind and an eventuality as respects the beast, and they have the same eventuality. As the one dies, so the other dies; and they all have but one spirit, so that there is no superiority of the man over the beast, for everything is vanity. 20All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.
They have all come from the dust and all are returning to the dust. If the spirit of them lived on, then surely the spirit would be going elsewhere and not to the dust.
Incidently, The Greek word pneu'ma (spirit) comes from pne′o, meaning "breathe or blow," and the Hebrew ru'ach (spirit) conveys the same meaning thus they basically mean "breath". The breath is the force of life in physical creatures. It can also die as the following scripture shows...
Psalm 146:3"Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
4His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."
so the spirit does not come from some other place, nor does it survive after the death of the body...therefore its impossible that the scriptures you quote could mean what you posted.
Michamus writes:
The Bible never explicitly states the nature or history of Elohim (which is a plurality as the Council of El) other than it being the creator. This is why there is a plural "us" in the creation, and interaction between Adam, Eve, and God. It is after the expulsion that YHWH comes into the picture. Thus, you cannot contradict information that does not exist.
thats convenient lol
Michamus writes:
Again, you are discussing the physical creation of man. This does not prohibit the increase in "knowledge" on a pre-existing spirit. The logical following is, that which is created on earth, must end... therefor the spirit must have previously existed.
and therein is a contradiciton to the Bible because in the Bible the word for Spirit is as i've shown. It means 'breath of life'
According to the bible the spirit can die
According to the bible the spirit of man is the same as the spirit in animals.
So the mormon church has a different meaning of spirit then what the biblical spirit is.
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