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Author Topic:   A Discussion of the Rationalization of Slavery
Taz
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Message 12 of 50 (546168)
02-09-2010 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DevilsAdvocate
01-14-2010 11:25 PM


The scary things about all of this:
(1) Buz is a pastor who preaches at his church. Just imagine all the youths that are being indoctrinated by this evil man masquerading as some kind of holy man standing on moral high grounds.
(2) Not a single fundy has spoken out against buz's evil beliefs. Silence is another way of approval.
(3) Last I checked, fundies make up a significant portion of the population. Significant enough to keep gay people as second class citizens.
(4) Buz probably doesn't even understand why his beliefs are evil. He's probably still convinced he's right about slavery and continues to teach people in his community this evil way of thinking.
Just imagine what kind of fucked up country we'd be living in if people like buz are in charge.
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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Taz
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Message 15 of 50 (546212)
02-09-2010 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Hyroglyphx
02-09-2010 9:10 AM


Hyroglyphx writes:
No I am accusing some "historians" for essentially leading others astray by rewriting history. I was just commenting that usually you have two sides of colonial history.
Either the settlers were all wonderful people, slaves didn't mind being slaves, and the settlers were just defending themselves from dem savage injuns.
The other side is the white man (a.k.a. The Devil) whipped slaves all day long just for fun, ate the flesh of natives, and consumed every natural resource.
The truth lies somewhere in between is my point.
I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble ignoring the connection automatically popped up in my head between your statement and Bush's "it's somewhere in between... it's up for debate" statements when asked about evolution and creationism. Let's cut through the bullshit. We all know he was a creationist. But since it was not fashionable or PC to outright deny evolution, instead he made it sound like he's making a compromise.
Your caricaturization of historians are getting tiring. While I'm not a historian myself, I have mentioned many times on here that I'm a history buff and almost declared that as my major back in college a kazillion years ago because I have a passionate love affair with history (still not sure if the wife approves). Yes, the truth lies somewhere in between the two caricatured positions you summarized. Usually, caricaturizing a position is a sign that you lean towards a position that is not PC.

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Taz
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Message 25 of 50 (546288)
02-09-2010 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dr Adequate
02-09-2010 12:01 PM


Re: Bush?
DrA writes:
I thought I remembered Bush making some distinctly pro-evolution remarks around the time he left office. Is my memory failing me?
If anything, Bush is the perfect politician. When he was governor of Texas, he openly supported the Texan law that criminalized homosexuality. Of course, when it was struck down by the federal supreme court (finally), he began to take a more neutral position.
I don't care what kind of remarks the man made toward the end of his presidency. He's a crank... and a liar.

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Taz
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Message 42 of 50 (547052)
02-16-2010 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by onifre
02-15-2010 10:45 PM


Re: All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
onifre writes:
But again, in many cases I like to call out certain hypocrisies and note that we humans advocate many forms of slavery, all be it under other labels.
Is this one of those post-modern metaphorical bullshit where left is the same as right, up is the same down, white is the same as black, a dog is the same as a cat, a 21st century mechanical engineer is the same as a 17th century plantation slave, etc.?

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