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zephyr
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Message 7 of 84 (55567)
09-15-2003 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Headcase
09-15-2003 5:12 PM


Re: Reply
quote:
It is not "False Age", It is REAL AGE created inherently at the time of creation...
Please do attempt to explain the difference! If it is real age, why has it been concealed from us by religious leaders and discovered by infidels?
quote:
I did not say He might deceive, God does not lie...
God does test character...
So he plants evidence for things that his book contradicts, and then he slams everyone who goes with the most trustworthy knowledge they have - firsthand observation. I don't buy it. Why do so many consider belief in a young earth to be a requirement of true faith when our senses and reasoning capability, applied in the most sensible manner, tell us that it is old?
quote:
ify responses please...Anger is not needed...
I think you mean "objective." I don't objectify an answer unless it's in the form of a busty brunette in a tight little dress.

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zephyr
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Posts: 821
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Message 12 of 84 (55576)
09-15-2003 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Headcase
09-15-2003 5:40 PM


Re: Reply
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Be not deceived... God is not mocked whatever a man soweth, that also shall he reap.
Are you talking to me or somebody else? Try hitting the reply button on a particular post - it will reduce the confusion you create.
As far as this quotation, it is rather inappropriate in the current discussion. Are you trying to avoid real discussion by threatening me with divine judgment for using the reasoning capabilities with which I was born? I don't take it seriously, but anyone who did would be very offended.

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zephyr
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Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 20 of 84 (55628)
09-15-2003 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Headcase
09-15-2003 8:29 PM


Re: Reply
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I guess now you are going to tell me to stop being a bigot and quit being prejudice against you for being an atheist, I am not avoiding your discussion, what is your question?
Haha!!! Good call!
Actually, the thought of saying that had never really crossed my mind. Not in those terms, anyway. I was more interested in asking you to actually answer my post. You know, where I asked you if your post (directly after mine) was a response thereto. If that is in fact the case, and you are asking me what my question is, you must have missed the fact that my post (to which you seemed to be objecting) contained two questions directly pertinent to the actual topic of this thread. Go ahead and check it out. Number 7.

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zephyr
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Posts: 821
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Message 40 of 84 (55898)
09-16-2003 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Headcase
09-16-2003 1:23 PM


Re: Reply
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God knew where you were going, be it either heaven or hell, when he created you... That is what Jeremiah speaks of when he makes the analogy of the pots for royal use and pots for destruction,
God wants everyone to be saved... He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance...
The God described in these posts is either not omniscient or not omnipotent. Let's start with the first part: he knew where I (for example) was going before he created me. That means that he knows, right now, whether I am going to heaven or hell. That's part of omniscience. Let us assume, for the sake of discussion, that I am destined for hell because I don't believe in him, and my faith of past years is probably not going to get me anywhere, especially after what I'm posting tonight.
Now, since God is omnipotent, and he doesn't want me to go to hell, I won't go to hell. But wait - God already knew where I was going when I was created. It has already been determined by him, and he knows it, and being infallible, he can't be wrong. So, it's outside of his power to change my destiny!
To quote Douglas Adams: "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4580 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 68 of 84 (56320)
09-18-2003 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Headcase
09-18-2003 4:25 PM


Re: Reply to the homicidal homosexual pedofiles
quote:
none of them ever stooped to the level of confusion and satanic worship of their own sexual lusts that most homosexuals do today... anyways just thought id throw that out there to all you homosexuals who think you were born that way... coming soon : Sodom and Gramorah part two, san francisco
You have got to be effin' kidding me. How many satanic lust-worshipping homosexuals do you personally know? I'll bet all my cash and a couple of limbs you're just regurgitating the same rhetorical garbage someone fed you, the same I was fed in my fundie church a few years ago before I saw the light. Since then, probably unlike you, I have actually known a few men who prefer to have sex with men, and they have been just like everyone else: just trying to get by in the world, go to work, pay their bills, and have a roof over their head and food on the table and a few friends who accept them for what they are. Honestly, you need to think about the words you say and what they really mean. If you did, you'd probably realize you have no basis for saying them beyond the fact that you heard them and it makes you feel purposeful when you repeat them.

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zephyr
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Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 69 of 84 (56321)
09-18-2003 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by crashfrog
09-18-2003 4:37 PM


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What's so satanic about two men having sex, anyway? I don't get it. I mean, I don't like mushrooms on my pizza any more than I like having sex with men, but I don't think mushrooms on pizza is satanic...
Not to go sidetracking the discussion, but I'd just like to suggest that if you did both those things in the dark and then turned on the lights, one would probably cause you slightly more concern than the other.

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zephyr
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Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 71 of 84 (56323)
09-18-2003 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Dan Carroll
09-18-2003 4:44 PM


Re: Reply to the homicidal homosexual pedofiles
quote:
Out of curiosity, would you rather have a man lick your penis, or stab you in the throat with a pen-knife?
Is it just me, or is today's level of unintentionally hilarious comments way higher than normal? Or did I smoke a bowl this morning and forget about it, and find myself way too easily amused?
(I'm kidding; my employer tests regularly)

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4580 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 76 of 84 (56331)
09-18-2003 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Headcase
09-18-2003 4:54 PM


Re: Reply to the homicidal homosexual pedofiles
quote:
Wow, thats deep... lets not think... lets destroy our brains and lungs... duh, that sounds fun...
"That's what fundamentalism breeds: no irony."
- Bill Hicks, on why fundies miss so many good jokes

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4580 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
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Message 77 of 84 (56332)
09-18-2003 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by Headcase
09-18-2003 4:52 PM


quote:
I Timothy 3:16-17
Honestly, can't you be bothered to post the text for those of us who don't have a Bible in reach at the moment? I'm assuming you have it memorized or physically present yourself, so do us a favor and quote it.

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zephyr
Member (Idle past 4580 days)
Posts: 821
From: FOB Taji, Iraq
Joined: 04-22-2003


Message 82 of 84 (56363)
09-18-2003 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Dan Carroll
09-18-2003 5:13 PM


Re: Reply to the homicidal homosexual pedofiles
quote:
If this conversation gets any dumber, we're all gonna have to wear helmets.
I got mail, yeaahhhh!!!! I got mail, yeaaahhhh!!!

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