Evolving the Musculoskeletal System

Pay attention Crashfrog. You have to have nerves to the muscles that
move the bones. I am waiting with baited breath for you to spell out such a system

You know what Crashfrog? I don't even like you and its irritating to deal with you so I probably won't be answering your relies for much longer. Ho hum...show me where I said "I think you need to have bones in order to have nerves".Show me a organism that is under evolutionary construction that is surviving with an incomplete system please.

none of this is on topic subbie

How does this explain the survival of an incomplete system?

I concede. That was a dumb approach when there is no evolution taking place anywhere.

For one thing, your blood needs your bones. Do your nerves need blood?...can you live without your bones?...will your nerves survive if you die? I am talking about independent organisms...and you wonder why I don't like you?...I am really holding back here...Lord give me strength...

please refer to my last private message to you

Show me where I said no organism could ever live without bones.I said YOU can't live without bones.If you want to change goal posts and
talk about worms then start a new thread.Respectfully,
IC

How did I not do that in message #71? If you think
others gave suitable responses then let the record
show I strongly disagree!!!You and your buddies are the ones making claims that rm/ns is producing miraculous designing feats and as Bolder-dash rightly stated, the burden of proof is on you to prove the impossible really happened, not on us to prove that it didn't. I haven't been dumbly asking the same questions over and over as you have made it sound. I have presented thought provoking questions worthy of sound answers.
Its not my fault that I think the answers thus far fall flat.Respectfully,
IC

Hi scarab, and welcome to the EvC. State of the art indeed. Saying they gradually progressed from simple beginnings into a state of the art mammalian skeleton does nothing to explain how they ended up in such perfect formation from the skull to the toe. With your obviously very intelligent mind, you would be hard pressed to sit down and engineer a more well thought out design for a foundational structure than our current skeletal system.From there it only gets tougher to account for as we see over 650 muscles that puppeteer the structure connected to all the nerves through the body in an elaborate maze of wiring connecting to the amazing brain.If you check out message #71 the problems surmount as I point out how the problems for the evolutionary model can hardly be scoffed at as system after system has to be up and running to make it all happen.You present a lot of "could have's" and "possible's" but I would love to see some tangible evidence that rm/ns is capable of pulling off such miraculous feats of design.I here a lot of inferences made as people peer into a microscope. I see a lot of people pointing to mutations gone bad. I hear a lot of high fulootin biological mubo-jumbo but I don't see any real and tangible evidence being offer up that rm/ns is capable of producing complex new structures.Respectfully,
ICDESIGN

Hi Percy,First of all, thank you for showing me how to highlight a link to a msg. That is very helpful info C'mon Percy, you've got to be kidding me. What about the elephant in the living room I talked about? Its not off topic because the systems I pointed out that are necessary for the Musculoskeletal to operate are all interconnected.I get it that evolution is a very slow step by step accumulation over a vast period of time. That is in essence my beef. Exactly! So how does a system that would take a vast amount of time to evolve be functional
during the vast time of evolvement?As I said in Message 71, if an organism isn't fully formed from the beginning it cannot exist. (of course I am talking about going back to the very first ones)
Not one of you has yet addressed this problem. Why is that?Respectfully,
IC

Oh really? Then lets see you sit down and design a completely original human body that we could transfer into and live successfully.

Oh, do you mean those intelligently designed computers using those intelligently designed programs...yeah, real evolutionary.Off topic so save subject for another thread...Bye the way Huntard... good to here from you Mate

Ok, lets walk through this Crash. First of all you still got what I said in 71 wrong. I was talking about the human body the whole time. So drop this foolishness like I don't know many creatures don't have a skeletal system...give me a friggen break!Now. How did the very first worm become fully-formed?

Keep going back to the first one. The very first one. What is you guys don't get about being the very first one?
If the first one burst on the scene fully formed that is called creation not evolution.